UFO Conjectures

Tuesday, January 05, 2016

Is Ufology dead or just flaccid?

One can only sustain a mystery for so long; then it becomes stale, boring, and uninteresting.

This is the state of ufology right now.

We are all trying to explain an enigma that won’t allow itself to be explained.

Digging down into old sightings brings no fruits of discovery.

New sightings are uninvitingly dull, without flare or excitement.

And then there are the insipid back-and-forths between UFO devotees, which rehash old discussions, old speculations, old arguments….even here, where I strive to present vital conjecture but obviously fall short.

Could there be anything more banal in a world rife with other volatile contingencies?

The topic [UFOs] is hammered endlessly in some areas of the internet but, generally, those areas are populated by stupid newbies or tired UFO geezers who can’t shake off the subject matter, being so invested in it, to the point of existent disaster: The Paracast is an example.

Ufology won’t lie down and die, even though it is moribund to the point of non-existence.

The phenomenon won’t allow itself to be buried. Why not? That’s the question to conjure with, not what UFOs are, but why the damnable things won’t just go away, and leave us to matters more productive and humanly valuable.

UFOs mean nothing as far as humanity goes; they never have been and never will be part of the human experience, in a significant way.

And many have come to that realization and, thus, ufology is a dead issue for the sane among us.



  • I really enjoyed your posting on BIN.
    I too find the whole UFO thing incredibly uninteresting.
    I find myself completely ignoring most info theft people post on that site.
    Who knows,maybe it's all part of the plan..
    Steve Suerth

    By Blogger SS60, at Tuesday, January 05, 2016  

  • I think that there are numerous reasons for the dwindling intellectual interest in UFOs. It may well correlate to the down turn in the economy over the past 5 or so years where hobbies or other personal interests must take a back seat...sadly, this has hit me personally hard which conversely effected my own UFO skeptic blog as far as quality postings.

    With the increasing use of personal and commercial drones and the enormous amount of space junk orbiting the planet, it's no wonder that new supposed cases fall flat to non-existent.

    I attempted to pick a MUFON case of the month for discussion, but they're all the same with lack luster data, if what is presented could be called such. Subjective narratives out number any hard objective data which virtually renders a MUFON case meaningless.

    I do enjoy your recent attempts at the AI angle. I hope to look more into to that subject soon for quality blog material...perhaps we can collaborate in the future.

    I still think that the psychological aspects can be delved into more closely, but this takes time and the willingness of readers to look at things in a different light.

    I ramble...

    By Blogger Tim Hebert, at Tuesday, January 05, 2016  

  • The AI angle intrigues, Tim. I h ope to present more on it.

    And looking at the images in Kolosimo's Spaceships in Prehistory and Campbell's The Mythic Image, I see possibilities for a look at humanity's "insane-like" insights about the gods or uber-reality, of which UFOs are one kind.

    John Gray's The Soul of the Marionette, which I've been hyping a bit here, has interesting material about the Gnostic viewpoints that have afflicted cultural icons, and could be pressed into ufological topics I think.

    One has to take the UFO topic away from its traditional patina in order to revitalize it.

    But is it worth the trouble? Perhaps not, as I suggest in the posting above.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, January 05, 2016  

  • It's slightly flat-lining...and soon the life-support will be switched off...

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Tuesday, January 05, 2016  

  • Some of us have decided (for the most part) to keep this particular hobby to ourselves moving forward, far from the rabble.


    By Blogger Paul Kimball, at Tuesday, January 05, 2016  

  • Though the UFO mystery itself may be flat-lining, the possible government cover-up aspect may well be alive and well. Hillary Clinton was recently asked about UFOs by Daymond Steer of the Conway Daily Sun. She reportedly said that if elected...she would "get to the bottom of it". She went on to add: "I think we may have been visited already...we don't know for sure." Combine this with recent interview statements by husband Bill on the subject and with Hillary's close aid, John Podesta, and the UFO near-death may be as premature as Mark Twain's premature obituary.

    By Blogger Dominick, at Tuesday, January 05, 2016  

  • A rational decision, Paul.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, January 05, 2016  

  • Dominick:

    That's about disclosure, not UFOs per se.

    Aliens may have come to Earth aboard the Mayflower.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, January 05, 2016  

  • "That's about disclosure, not UFOs per se."

    If Ms. Clinton is reluctant to disclose all of her numerous emails from her private server as a sitting Secretary of State and refuses to discuss her role in the Benghazi debacle then I seriously doubt that any other forms of "disclosure" ala ETs and UFOs will be forthcoming.

    Besides, "disclosure" is for the mock congressional hearings subsisting of former members of congress who were tossed out on their asses and the occasional dog and pony show at the Washington D.C Press Club.

    Rich, perhaps the "aliens" were the ones greeting the Mayflower at Plymouth Rock? :)

    By Blogger Tim Hebert, at Tuesday, January 05, 2016  

  • The Mayflower greeters, Tim, were indigenous...


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, January 05, 2016  

  • "That's about disclosure, not UFOs per se". Do you then rule out the fact that disclosure itself, if it were to happen (improbable) would tell us nothing about UFOs per se?! That seems illogical. Depends, doesn't it, on what is actually disclosed. When you open up a can of worms you may well find worms inside.

    By Blogger Dominick, at Tuesday, January 05, 2016  

  • Yes Rich. You missed my pun, but that's my fault at crappy humor. BTW, if you were a fan of the rock group Kansas (which I'm sure you were not), one of their album cover art depicted a native american wearing a glass helmet living on an alien planet. I'll see if I can pull it up on line. Thought of this a few days ago while listening to my Best of Kansas CD in my car.

    My goodness Rich, I on the verge of expanding your cultural knowledge...at least in music!:)

    By Blogger Tim Hebert, at Tuesday, January 05, 2016  

  • Kansas? Cultural? Oh my...


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, January 05, 2016  

  • Dominick:

    Aliens may be here, but via UFOs? Not necessarily, right?

    I'm not convinced, as you know, that space travelers (from galaxies, far, far away) are visiting or have visited this pathetic, little planet we call home.

    Now, if we conjecture how "alien beings" might be here or have come here in the past, that's a matter, outside the UFO topic, for me.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, January 05, 2016  

  • For Tim Herbert:
    Easy peasy with Google Image Search and Wikipedia:

    By Blogger Holly Mackeral, at Wednesday, January 06, 2016  

  • Thanks HM, I pulled up the wiki link yesterday. A blast from the past. Wiki has a good interpretation of the album's cover art. I plan to use it in a future blog post on my site.

    By Blogger Tim Hebert, at Wednesday, January 06, 2016  

  • Obviously this is a thwarted love affair to you, Rich. I have, at times, wondered about your confrontational tone and concurrent motive, which removed your efforts from the objective playing field. Similar to the pamphlets incessantly released at each juncture of social incongruity in the 15th-18th centuries. Opinion and aim, yes, but not clarification.

    Is ufology dead? What a strange question. Of course it is, it has been from the very start and will be as long as it's named that way. It is the nature of the beast. A discipline that tries to research an unknown quantity that has no coherent description, and with no rules, no tools, no combined lexicography but only dreams and fancies to project some artificial sense into a chaotic whole is obviously dead on arrival.

    As I respect your mileage in this field and I feel I stand aside to your relentless questioning, I am wondering if there is anything else you want to convey beyond this obvious observation.

    Best regards,


    By Blogger theo paijmans, at Wednesday, January 06, 2016  

  • Theo:

    Everything fascinates me, everything.

    UFOs are one of my older obsessions, and remains so, obviously, but it has been and continues to be one of those things that irritates because it remains so abstruse and open-ended.

    I have other blogs, dealing with other issues and life-questions, but UFOs keep sneaking back into my inquisitiveness. I just keep hoping that someone would come up with a viable explanation, something that eludes me, as you point out.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, January 06, 2016  

  • The curious fact about almost anybody that "talk" about Ufology is exactly that: they only "talk" about it, as they will talk about space walking: they have zero experience on the subject; that is why their opinions are irrelevant as will be anybody's opinion in any subject where they do not have any experience.

    By Blogger Anomalies Study Group, at Tuesday, November 15, 2016  

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