UFO Conjecture(s)

Thursday, January 28, 2016

JFK was killed to stop UFO disclosure? Nick Redfern thinks maybe that is so. [I do not]



  • I wouldn't say I think that. The theme of the article is specifically connected to the "six degrees of Kevin Bacon" issue. In other words, to make a case for the JFK-UFO angle we have to assume that the threads are actually connected. Or are irrelevant and of no consequence.

    For example, I talk in the article about how in 1947 FBI Special-Agent Guy Banister investigated a number of UFO reports. He also plays a major role in the JFK assassination saga.

    But, Ufology cannot make a link between both issues - unless it resorts to the six degrees angle. Making the data fit doesn't mean it should fit.

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Thursday, January 28, 2016  

  • I allow that the threads are interesting, Nick.

    But right-wing elements in the CIA just hated (liberal) JFK, UFOs being as irrelevant then as they are now.

    Yet, your "connections" should be weighed by all of us as anything is possible, especially when it comes to the JFK assassination (or even UFOs).


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, January 28, 2016  

  • Yep, that's the big issue: whether a connection is evidence of something tangible and relevant, or if it's a case of when you have six degrees you can pretty much make anything fit.

    For example, I once did a TV show with Roy Thinnes" of the 1960s UFO show, "The Invaders." Thinnes was on "The X-Files." But that doesn't mean I have any connection to "The X-Files"! LOL. But, when you use that six degrees angle, it's very easy to create a thread that actually isn't a thread at all.

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Thursday, January 28, 2016  

  • But you do have a tangential connection to The X-Files, Nick, as your previous posting(s) on the show indicate.

    And then all your appearances on paranormal (and UFO) shows indicate you're the UFOs community's Mulder.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, January 28, 2016  

  • But, they aren't threads that actually mean anything.

    For example, a big deal has been made about the Fred Crisman story as it relates to his connection to the Maury Island caper.

    And it's fact that in 1968 Jim Garrison subpoenaed Crisman during his (Garrison's) investigation of the JFK assassination. But, it requires the "six degrees" game to make the two connect.

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Thursday, January 28, 2016  

  • Mulder wears a suit and I would never do that, and Scully would have to be a hot goth woman :)

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Thursday, January 28, 2016  

  • Didn't Fred Crisman once write to Ray Palmer (in 1946) that he had encountered a creature known as a 'Dero' in a cave in Burma during WW2? He even took a shot at it!
    At least that is what Palmer told his readers in a pulp magazine. The 'deros' were later taken up as genuine by a certain Richard Shaver.

    It all fits in, doesn't it?

    By Blogger cda, at Thursday, January 28, 2016  

  • Yep, Crisman did say that!

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Friday, January 29, 2016  

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