UFO Conjecture(s)

Sunday, March 06, 2016

Another Roswell intrusion -- No, not an invasion or crash, just more ongoing detritus

I received this e-mail last week (which also went to other UFO buffs):

Osvaldo Carigi  (Mar 2, 2016)


two questions:

1) What is your interpretation of symbols described by Jesse Marcel Jr.?

2) In your opinion the aliens of RoswelL ufo-crash where are they from?

Thanks for your answers.
I told Osvaldo to ask Kevin Randle or David Rudiak.

Meanwhile, Osvaldo got the following responses, so far, from those more interested in Roswell than I am:
Edward Gehrman  

Good Morning Osvaldo,

The symbols described by Jesse were probably the same as the symbols found on the beams connected with the Alien Autopsy.

These are some form of ancient writing, closely connected to Greek.

Michael Hesemann wrote:

"When I first saw the hieroglyphs on the I-beams, I immediately recognised a similarity with the Greek and Phoenician alphabets.  Indeed, both of them have a common origin and belong to the same 'family' as the many different Semitic alphabets-Aramaic, Sabaeic, Samaritan, Hebrew, Protocanaanitic, Nabataeic and Arabic-which all originate from the hieroglyphic alphabet, one of the four main groups of Egyptian
hieroglyphs (the others being two- and three-syllable signs and ideograms).

Interestingly enough, inscriptions which clearly belong to the same family of alphabets, but pre-date the Phoenician or even the Egyptianculture, have been found all over the world-in Peru (Ylo),41 Ecuador
(Cuenca),42 Brazil (Piedra Pintada),43 France (Glozel, Maz d'Azil),44 onthe Canary Islands,45 and elsewhere.  Because of their similarity withthe Phoenician alphabet, I call them "Proto-Phoenician". (More at site)


I don't know where the creatures live presently, or how they make a living, but I believe that they are our cousins, evolved mammals who developed a civilization on earth long before there were tarsier for humans to evolve from. I don't think they mean any harm any more than we mean harm to lab rats or chimps.
Philip Mantle

Hi ed,

No they were not.

Edward Gehrman [Still pushing the Alien Autopsy nonsense. RR]


Do you have any evidence that the symbols described by Jesse are not connected to the symbols in the AA debris, or are you just assuming that's so because you think the AA and the cameraman are a hoax?  How have you been?
Dennis Balthaser

A better question would be, does anyone have factual information that an autopsy was ever done. The Santilli film has been disproven many times. I'm sure the military would have had a procedure to study the bodies, but in my 30 years of researching Roswell no one has ever provided factual documentation of an autopsy being done.

I did lectures with Jesse Jr, been to dinner with the families, and emailed and phoned each other many times. Back in 1947 when Maj. Marcel and Jesse referred to the symbols looking like hieroglyphics, that was about the only thing they could reference the symbols to. They did not say they were, but resembled them.

I think this whole discussion revolves around someone presenting factual information that an autopsy is documented somewhere. I don't believe that has been done in the past 68 years.

Edward Gehrman 


The Santilli autopsy has not been "disproven" many times.  There isn't any evidence that the AA is a hoax.

Spyros says he created the creature from his own mind and then gave his idea to John Humphrey, but John has stated very clearly that he made his creature from film supplied by Ray Santilli.

Spyros has created the ultimate illusion by claiming film credits for something he had no part in.

Reconsideration of the alien autopsy and the debris and the cameraman's drawings and the crash site is the key to begin to understand UFO, and Roswell, and the Plains,and many other unanswered questions.

Philip Mantle


Dennis Balthaser 

Nothing else needs to be said.

Edward Gehrman 

Philip, Dennis, All,

The so-called "evidence" that the Alien Autopsy is a hoax  and Spyros's claims that he is responsible need to be reexamined, especially his explanation as to how he constructed the creature.  It's understandable why there is still confusion over Roswell when researchers continue to ignore important evidence like the crash site,cameraman's drawings and the uncut  AA footage.

There may be more responses coming, which I'll end up getting as I'm on the Osvaldo mailing list.

But I only provide this material to show that Roswell still gets inordinate attention by UFO aficionados, even though the matter has been defunked by time and the silly extrapolations derived from the 1947 incident by those who see the matter as the UFO-ET "smoking gun."



  • Interesting....

    I always thought the symbols were purple "flowers" printed on tape made by a toy factory!

    I've looked into UFO related symbols quite extensively. I can say the symbols in "Autoposy" are bogus and don't conform to anything that Marcel Jr. has ever drawn - EVER. There's no connection to the Greek language whatsoever in his drawings or descriptions, which by the way weren't always consistent and got more sophisticated over time.

    If anything, alien "symbols" reported by witnesses actually have more connection to human alchemy symbols many being identical or near identical to the same.

    Since alchemy was an ancient practice that often involved witchcraft and wizards, including sometimes devil worship, it begs the question whether or not these symbols have a more earthly origin.

    As far as Roswell goes, I think Jeffery was right - faded ink dye left from tape.

    By Blogger Brian Bell, at Sunday, March 06, 2016  

  • Roswell continues to fascinate (sorry, Rich) because, among other things, the government cannot get its story straight. How many government dumbies does it take to explain (3 times) in some believable way the crash and debris of a secret baloon...if that's what it was? There is forever, apparently, the smell of "cover-up" here and that's what keeps the interest going, just like the JFK killing.

    By Blogger Dominick, at Monday, March 07, 2016  

  • I shall attempt to answer the two questions put to you by Osvaldo Carigi:

    "Hi, two questions:

    1) What is your interpretation of symbols described by Jesse Marcel Jr.?
    2) In your opinion the aliens of Roswell ufo-crash, where are they from?"

    1. This should be referred to an expert in extraterrestrial languages. I understand there are plenty of these in some of our great universities here on earth, but don't have a list of them to hand. I also understand that there are quite a few research institutes in Europe, the USA and China capable of dealing with such matters although again, I do not have the exact details.

    2. Undoubtedly these aliens came from either Venus or Zeta Reticuli. This is because the alien hieroglyphics at Roswell closely resemble the strange writing on that roll of film that the Venusian returned to George Adamski on that memorable 'flying visit' to Palomar. The Zeta Reticuli origin is also very possible, due to the facts established by Stanton Friedman about the Hill abduction, although I have not the space to give the whole analysis.

    I hope these answers are adequate for Osvaldo's purposes.

    By Blogger cda, at Monday, March 07, 2016  

  • Roswell continues to resonate with UFO proponents, obviously.

    And my visitor graph at Blogger had a huge spike yesterday and today, from the Roswell title I imagine for the Osvaldo posting.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, March 07, 2016  

  • Goodness.

    I think the point of the post is Ed Gehrman is devoid of reason. That his preoccupation is attached to Roswell is a coincidence.

    By Blogger Terry the Censor, at Wednesday, March 09, 2016  

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