UFO Conjecture(s)

Thursday, May 12, 2016

Considering UFOs….rationally!

We often go far afield here with the UFO topic, as do other internet sites and blogs.

But the UFO phenomenon can be isolated to a few, rather simple considerations, all of them rehashed over and over again, here and elsewhere.

Firstly, let me dispense with the ETH, extraterrestrial hypothesis.

That anyone believes UFOs have been and are the visiting vanguard of an other-worldly, alien culture is looniness in a most salient form.

The reports of UFOs – reports, which skeptics such as Zoam Chomsky, among many others, decry as worthless (for reasons skeptics often enumerate) – are so numerous as to discount, sensibly, visitations.

That an advanced extraterrestrial civilization would visit or keep visiting planet Earth, when there are so many other spectacular cosmic venues in the galaxy and Universe, itself, boggles common sense.

And I’m talking about an advanced civilization, one that has to be intellectually astute to reconnoiter limitless space.

And also, while we’re at it, if ETs were prominent enough to badger planet Earth with so many alleged visitations, that would indicate humans are not unique to cosmic existence: other humanoid or thinking species would contend with us for specialness.

So, let’s throw out the ETH.

If UFOs are a matter of psychological operations (psy-ops), they have done a lousy job in that department, even if it’s just the denoting of UFOs and not any tangible manifestation of things said to be UFOs (or flying saucers/disks).

UFOs, as a manifestation of psychological warfare or societal manipulation is undermined by the mad (insane) ballyhoo that has encrusted UFO tales since the supposed initiation of psy-operations.

That UFOs are hallucinatory events or visions (sightings) may be the case in some instances, maybe many instances, but that can’t account for the reasonable and credible observations (reports, if you will) that have been made over the years.

While society is intrinsically mad, as Foucault and others delineate in their books on human insanities, even insane persons see real things.

UFOs as a new, unknown phenomenon is possible but unlikely, as science and thoughtful “ufologists” (yes, there are a few of those around), have found no decent construct, meteorological, astronomical, quantum-related or in any other disciplined study which might account for the odd appearance(s) of bizarre things in the skies, some of which have interacted with machines and humans to a more or lesser degree, if one accepts witness accounts as accurate, or fairly so.

That UFOs represent advanced technology of some Earth governments is laughable, only because such technology would not remain secret for all the years in which UFOs have been reported, not to mention the historical record(s).

That UFOs come here from the future or somewhere outside our time or dimension can be discounted for the same reasons that the ETH can be dismissed.

UFOs, as a categorical discussion topic, can’t be set aside as a total fabrication of human imagination. There are too many concrete, reasonable reports – Zoam Chomsky’s anti- predilection about reports aside – to discount that UFOs are real, as real as the Grand Canyon is for those who have never seen or visited the great geological fault.

But what they [UFOs] are is open to speculation, unique speculation, as the current speculations are woefully lame, even those made by me, here.



  • Rich, perhaps some UFO reports can be understood using Cognitive Behavior Theory as the observer/contactee is attempting to establish a need. Of course with CBT that need is open to interpretation, but most are simple needs that go unfulfilled and are manifested in a strange and twisted way...psychologically speaking. I want to stress that some, not all, may fit this idea.

    By Blogger Tim Hebert, at Thursday, May 12, 2016  

  • "Some" is the operative word, Tim....and I'd change that to "few,"


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, May 12, 2016  

  • Your reasoned skepticism concerning the ETH hypothesis makes sense; I get it. Yet any empirical hypothesis can be accepted or rejected by facts on the ground so to speak. In 1954 in France as you know (we are both old timers on this issue)there were dozens of alleged humanoid sightings and alleged landings. If only 10 were real--as real as the Grand Canyon as you say--or even only 5, we have some support for some sort of ETH hypothesis. They came, they landed multiple times, they left.

    By Blogger Dominick, at Thursday, May 12, 2016  

  • I'm fascinated. Dominick, by those 1950s French (and European) sightings and encounters.

    They are truly intriguing but don't support ET-oriented episodes, necessarily, for the reasons I cite.

    It's a possibility, surely, but only that, a possibility.

    There are other suppositions, such as those of Vallee or our friend, Spanish UFO researcher, Jose Antonio Caravaca, who has presented his "Distortion Theory" with an "external agency" responsible for the occurrences. I've often promoted his theory here.

    And you're right, if just one photo or one authentic UFO encounter, among the many has taken place, it supports a UFO reality.

    However, what that reality is, exactly, remains up for debate.

    And I'm not thinking, as you know, that it is an extraterrestrial reality.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, May 12, 2016  

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    By Blogger hessdalen lights, at Thursday, May 12, 2016  

  • Thank you Julien...


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, May 12, 2016  

  • Per Julien: "The solution to this fascinating psychophysical mystery will be a mix between a psychosocial theory (à la Jung not à la noamchomsky) and the external agency of J.Vallée and J.A. Caravaca."

    I have to respectfully disagree. As far as this "psychophysical" mystery can be discern, the "physical" has yet to be proven. The "psycho", meaning the psychological, has been proven on numerous fronts.

    I like Caravaca's theory, but I'm leaning more and more to an "internal" agency.

    By Blogger Tim Hebert, at Thursday, May 12, 2016  

  • Rich,
    I think the key to the question: "what is this about?" [if there is a question] is probably to be found in 'non-publicized" or "low publicized events". The more attention a event received the less likely any useful information can be obtained from it.

    Roswell and all of the "The Roswell of..." sightings / landings / crashes will not produce actual useful information. It's a bit sad that so many people have spent years, wrote boxes of books and still obtained no actual answer -- and after almost 70 years are never likely to do so.

    One of the most ridiculous things about Roswell is the claim that for nearly 70 years the "government has conspired to keep it secret" yet *everyone* complains about how bad the government is at keeping secrets [Wikileaks, et al]. You can say that what Snowden published wasn't on the "need to know" list.

    As examples of these non-publicized event I would point you to the events recorded in my father's papers in your possession. Unfortunately the actual percipients are now dead, so no further useful information or research can be obtained.

    Rich, you have complained here, time and again, that there are "no new events"-- That the "classic" events seem to yield the most information. I propose that there are new events but almost everybody has peen conditioned not to report when they see "things which are not quite right".

    Imagine how an "everyday" person to being hounded by the likes of the skeptics or "believers with an agenda". There are probably "thousands and thousands" of similar unreported events like the ones in my father's papers.

    Then there also may be more than one reason for the observed events... We lump them all together as "UFO" but are they really? Before there is any progress in the field, the cultural / mythological / folklore needs to be kicked to the curb. The Greys, Nordics, and so forth need to go-- they are more than likely all the result of "disinformation".

    TV / Cable shows like "Fringe" and "The X-files" have muddied the waters to the point where you cannot tell the truth from the lies. Star Trek and Star Wars have dulled the senses and presented aliens as "humans in rubber suits and skin make-up". Industrial Light and Magic [div of Lucasfilm] does better special effects that those reported. So did people really see aliens in the 50s,60s 70s or were they just a cultural phenomena of "B" Sci-fi movies and pulp men's magazines, and the growing CGI SF film field?

    Crash events are far less likely than reported [think how over time the "mean time between crashes" our own aircraft has gotten longer an longer].

    The so-called MIBs are either inter-dimensional travelers or they were members of the Bulgarian "State Security" on loan to the Soviet KGB or maybe even AF Intelligence [I once had a visit from a USAF officer, dressed in a black suit and aviator glasses who came to interview me concerning an acquaintance who the USAF was considering assigning to the west coast SAC war room. The acquaintance did not want the assignment so he had listed every "counter-cultural" person he knew.].

    The field has gotten stale because the reports have gotten stale. Even the likes of Nick Redfern cannot investigate / report events if they all look like a stack of story tropes out of Fringe / X-Files / Invaders. The stories have become "entertainment".

    Ultimately the answer maybe: "Nothing to see here. Move along!"

    By Blogger Joel Crook, at Thursday, May 12, 2016  

  • I continue to see the possibility of direct and clear observations. Honest people seeing things that make no sense. Not the lights in the sky nonsense, but things, craft or physical objects observed.

    Are there none of these? I suggest there are those of us in wonder of what is not apparent or easily and/or reasonably explained.

    I don't project beyond that easily.

    Explain them away to your heart content, all of them. I still believe there is a signal amid the noise and for good reason.


    By Blogger Bryan Daum, at Thursday, May 12, 2016  

  • The question Bryan is "what is that signal"?....


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, May 12, 2016  

  • Bryan,

    I did a quick look at numerous cases filed with MUFON and NUFORC a few months ago as I was thinking about taking a random sample (using a random sample generator) and seeing if anything was useful. My goal was to apply the clinical subjective/objective approach to see if anything matched up.

    My first impressions were that the more elaborate descriptions had severe issues as these reports were long on subjective information but short (nonexistent in some cases) of objective data.

    Perhaps the most honest reports came from individuals who only listed a flashing series of lights in the sky and they left it at that.

    By Blogger Tim Hebert, at Thursday, May 12, 2016  

  • It only is relevant to those who have seen them, I saw mine in the late '70s, it made no sense, but there it was there, sober and not expecting anything, there it was. As I have said before, it led me here.

    Those that have seen "a real physical something(?)" beyond their experience to comprehend what they have seen and can only describe it are orphans amid those who haven't and all those who wish to dismiss it.


    By Blogger Bryan Daum, at Thursday, May 12, 2016  

  • As I've often noted, here and elsewhere, I have had three UFO sightings over the years, one noted by media and Fate magazine at the time, and one of cavorting lights in the overhead sky at night, spotted by me and a gang of neighborhood kids as we played a game. (I called a Detroit newspaper but was rebuffed, obviously because I sounded like an excited kid, which I was.)

    More recently, in Indiana, one early morning 3 a.m. or so, while taking our dog outside for his nightly, I saw a v-shaped bevy of about 5 flying things, glowing dimly and silent as they move across the sky overhead, slower than a meteor but faster than airplanes or a flock of birds.

    So UFOs exist for me, and I haven't had to rely on reports from others.

    Thus, there is something strange that impinged my sight and now my (almost infallible) memory -- sorry Zoam.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, May 12, 2016  

  • @ Rich

    Although you deny (as above) that advanced human technology can't explain all UFO phenomenon, your recent sighting "in Indiana where you saw a v-shaped bevy of about 5 flying things, glowing dimly and silent as they move across the sky" is most certainly US stealth global surveillance technology.

    Your description matches my sighting from 1 1/2 years ago to the letter.

    That wasn't five dim objects in V formation, that was one large V shaped stealth aircraft.

    The aircraft is noiseless and uses an active camouflage that masks the body by projecting what is above to the lower side. This renders the vehicle "invisible" and they are frequently reported as five discs in formation. These are seen at night only (as far as I can tell). I've spoken to several witnesses including some in Europe and we have all concluded the same thing.

    The five dimly lit blue-white lights are not lights - it's the propulsion system.

    Those are one of two different possible propulsion engines of which I now believe are based on microwaves which create lift (not antigravity per se but electro-gravitic lift). The thing is VTOL.

    I had a good glance at mine as it flew directly over my house around 9:30 pm on a crystal clear night at about 1,000 ft.

    I didn't know what it was and immediately spent about two hours on the net trying to figure it out. I could tell it wasn't some alien spaceship as it behaved more like a silent flying aircraft (and massive I might add).

    When I discovered this image it was an identical 100% match:


    I've been around aircraft my entire life and know what to look for.

    I then looked at Texas sightings on NUFORC and discovered this same vehicle is frequently sighted all over Texas, and sometimes mistaken for five lights in formation. This is what flew over Busch's ranch several years back. And I should mention Texas is the #1 government contractor for aerospace and military black budget projects.

    I believe the UFO phenomenon is a mix of several things and there is no one solution to their explanation.

    By Blogger Brian Bell, at Friday, May 13, 2016  

  • Thank you Brian...

    I'm not claiming that the thing(s) I saw was an alien space-ship, of course, just that it was an Unidentified Flying Object, that our friend Zoam disavows.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, May 13, 2016  

  • @ Rich

    Although Zoam is a die hard über-skeptic, like you I welcome the diversity of his thought (and others like CDA or Lance) on this subject.

    Regarding UFOs, there's the obvious full spectrum of individuals who offer both rational and irrational perspectives.

    < < < EXTREMES > > >
    Orthodox Orthodox
    Skeptic Agnostic ETH

    We find extremes on both ends of the spectrum - Orthodox Skeptics who believe nothing is known outside of current science, and Orthodox Believers who think anything is possible outside the realm of science.

    This provides for much levity, although both may be right in some respects both may also be wrong.

    Science has yet to prove intelligent extraterrestrials exist and are visiting earth, while the same is true for those backing the ETH for UFO encounters.

    In reality the UFO phenomenon is more complex than offering an explanation "there is or there is not" with conviction.

    Of the likely 3% of sightings (ETHers will claim 20%) that are really unidentified, I think we can conclude those are a mix of things still unknown to most of us.

    1) Human technology not made public (yet) but used for national defense.

    2) Psychological phenomenon still misunderstood and undocumented.

    3) Natural earth phenomenon misunderstood and not researched.

    This does not exclude the possibility that ET isn't out there, or even entities from another dimension. But so far we have no evidence that is definitive to satisfy either audience.

    As Vallee concluded, the small portion of sightings that are truly bizarre seem to have intelligent motives. That pattern is rather consistent over the millennia from ancient times till present day.

    I think of George Knapp and the bizzare happenings at SkinWalker ranch where Indian spirits, aliens, UFO's, dogmen, big foot, black triangles, invisible entities, and prehistoric animals all converged in one place to taunt both researchers and owners.

    To me this implies the earth may be infested with a deceptive, illusive and unseen intelligence that seems to ride the waves of human societal evolution always preferring to taunt in whatever form is most applicable to the era or situation - from the Middle Age pixies, forest sprites, and leprechauns to people from a distant star system in the 21st Century.

    If such an indigenous unseen intelligence does exist, it explains your "signal" amidst the noise. That signal has been part of our religions from the very beginning. That signal may be right here with us and not from some distant planet.

    By Blogger Brian Bell, at Friday, May 13, 2016  

  • What or who might that "indigenous unseen intelligence" be Brian? Any suggestion?

    I see Caravaca offering it as an "external agent." And others promoting The Trickster, a concept I absolutely hate.

    Vallee implies it's an intelligence of some kind.

    But what or who?

    Is it Jung's "projection" (of our own psyche)?

    The "intrusion" often seen in the Middle Ages as The Devil or the obverse of God in Middle Eastern religions seems to be part of the human environment, but meaningless in real or practical terms, unless you were in Salem, Massachusetts in the 1700s.

    My point is that the indigenous unseen intelligence is not an important part of our practical existence.....which Trickster aficionados might say, some of them, anyway.

    The indigenous unseen intelligence is an itch, nothing more....something that a few like to scratch.

    But it's irksome, is it not?


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, May 13, 2016  

  • Per Brian:

    "I think of George Knapp and the bizzare happenings at SkinWalker ranch where Indian spirits, aliens, UFO's, dogmen, big foot, black triangles, invisible entities, and prehistoric animals all converged in one place to taunt both researchers and owners."

    And that list of suspects, Knapp and the assorted cryptids, is enough to cast dubious doubt.

    This reminds me of a C2C segment where two individuals were debating one another's claims: Reptilian races living underground vs. actual dinosaurs still living deep in a region in the Congo.

    The proponent of the reptilian race blasted the dinosaur-in-the-Congo proponent as being ridiculous with an unbelievable story.

    Suffice to say, I had a good chuckle listening to this paradoxical exchange of views.

    By Blogger Tim Hebert, at Friday, May 13, 2016  

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    By Blogger hessdalen lights, at Friday, May 13, 2016  

  • Julien,

    Good that you mentioned Tom Tulien's work. I met Tom last month for coffee [he was in my area of SoCal] and we discussed briefly the Minot case and others plus my time as a crew commander at Malmstrom AFB. It was a good visit...nice guy.

    On my blog, I've been working off/on on the Minot story. I think that you would enjoy the back and forth that Tom and I have had. Take a look at a skeptics take on the Minot story from someone that is very familiar with the weapon system sans B-52, but the Minuteman system. While your at it, look at my discourse refuting Robert(s) Hastings and Salas.

    You see that I take a systemic approach towards dissecting each case and offering a conclusion(s)...of course one can disagree...

    By Blogger Tim Hebert, at Friday, May 13, 2016  

  • Tim's blog can be read here:



    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, May 13, 2016  

  • @ Rich

    "My point is that the indigenous unseen intelligence is not an important part of our practical existence...."

    Maybe, but maybe not. As you know from your brief experience with seminary training, there are ancient religious texts which do attempt to explain it. Surprisingly they are quite similar in their explanations despite completely different theologies.

    Of course in my experience both UFO proponent and UFO skeptic dismiss religion as mere psychological delusion. Neither accept it.

    I understand why they reject it for themselves, but not why they denounce it for others.

    In this aspect both skeptic and ET believer share a similar dislike (hatred even) of religious texts being brought into the subject of UFOs and their possible origins.

    So to ensure I don't get too far off topic I will describe my thoughts as simplistically as possible avoiding any bias towards one religion over another, or to be seen as one attempting to proselytize.

    Let's start with the concept of the "Watcher".

    "Watcher" appears in both plural and singular forms in the Book of Daniel (4th-2nd century BC), where reference is made to their holiness. Daniel is a conical book in the Bible written when Israel was captive in Babylon.

    The apocryphal Books of Enoch (2nd-1st centuries BC) refer to both good and bad Watchers, with a primary focus on the rebellious ones.

    Some sects of Judaism identified the "sons of God" with fallen spiritual entities possessing free will.

    The texts describe these entities as having electively chosen to descended to Mount Hermon found in the Book of Enoch, which the Ethiopian Orthodox Church and Eritrean Orthodox Tewahedo Church accept as canonical, as well as in various pseudepigrapha.

    Other pseudepigrapha and biblical texts describe these beings as creatures from God's abode, who chose to leave their natural state and interact with humanity. As watchers, their role was to observe and guard human activity. In some cases their role was to purposely oversee the success of nations.

    As the texts describe, these entities chose to disobey God and interact with humanity so as to usurp God's authority and to place humanity under their own control.

    We know the texts say these entities were created by God to serve him, with their rightful place being in God's abode, which by all practical means is not visible to us and hence is simply another dimension (although one that is close).

    Now supposing any of that is remotely true, we have powerful entities from another dimension living among us in a fashion that is counter to God's will.

    We could then conclude their deceptive nature is designed to keep us guessing as to if there really is a God at all, to influence our direction and thoughts according to their will, to confuse and obscure reality, and to keep our minds occupied on things of little real importance.

    In a sense, they have taken creation and masked its reality by fashioning it into a type of matrix - where our perception of reality and truth are distorted intentionally and where we are blinded and under their influence.

    Aliens? No. Entities pretending to be aliens....maybe.

    By Blogger Brian Bell, at Friday, May 13, 2016  

  • Brian:

    I have been a believer in guardian angels and hidden (spiritual) entities most of my life, even thinking I've been kept from close calls in a number of experiences but, and I think maybe Tim will agree, those entities are psychological projections, but something less than what Jung proposed.

    If we live in a deterministic world, maybe there is some credence to "hidden intelligences" operating for (and against?) our interests, but as a touch and feel guy, nowadays, I tend to discount the idea of "outsiders" actually influencing our lives in any dynamic sense. (Prayer has become hokum for me too.)

    Yet, one can't discount all (and I mean all) accounts of interactions with beings or things unseen.

    What they may be is up for grabs, in my mind.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, May 13, 2016  

  • Brian said, "In this aspect both skeptic and ET believer share a similar dislike (hatred even) of religious texts being brought into the subject of UFOs and their possible origins."

    Brian, I'm a skeptic, better yet agnostic to the approach of UFOs, but certainly have no hatred of religious texts. I have this inkling that we are part of a greater process that has been unfolding since the time that our hairy ancestors started to walk on two feet.

    I'm a poor example of a Catholic upbringing, as I discount the aspects of the Trinity...though purely from a "legal/contract" point of view. It's obvious to me that God is sitting this epoch out.

    I have higher expectations that a higher spiritual being would visit me in the dead of night looking like our presupposed assumptions of Michael and Gabriel rather than the likes of a "grey" or "reptilian" manifestation from the Outer Limits demanding that I bend over and grab my ankles.

    By Blogger Tim Hebert, at Friday, May 13, 2016  

  • The ETH hasn't matured or developed since its late-40s début. Yeah, it's extended further than Venus and Mars and that's about it. People at large are still picturing alien beings flying conventionally-shaped vessels and behaving like pirates or traders. There's also that popular conception that 'saucers' are the equivalent of cars for the visitors.

    For the ETH to exist in any reasonable way, it should reflect more contemporary ideas. Kardeshev scales and Kaku's Type whatever civilisations create a margin of possibility that overwhelms the old-fashioned ETH. Nevertheless, it's still like counting angels on the point of a skewer.

    Whatever equation might explain the historical sightings, the only known factor is H for humans and we can't seem to get much further than our own experiences. It's like every explanation offered is a reflection of the individual's (or group) world-view.

    By Blogger Kandinsky, at Saturday, May 14, 2016  

  • @ Brian "Aliens? No. Entities pretending to be aliens....maybe."

    The result would be the same, wouldn't it?

    I seem to be the only one here reminding us of the fact of SETI consisting of a group of bright, scientifically oriented folk being hopeful, if not expecting contact with 'others' is still out there. The SETI equipment upgrade that's ongoing is also encouraging. I wish there was a SETI input here in this blog to underline scientific hopefulness.

    NASA et al., on the other hand, seems to be looking for the first evidence of any life form. I have no issues with either, both are looking for the first signs of life beyond what's here.

    But I often reflect on the physical, that our physical senses were developed to allow us to survive here while our mental development has us looking beyond those senses and even our temporal existence in the awareness of astronomy's peering into/at objects light years away.

    To my thinking, we are so they are. Physical, dimensional, -or whatever, awareness or perhaps contact is inevitable. I just hope that it comes in my lifetime.


    By Blogger Bryan Daum, at Sunday, May 15, 2016  

  • Bryan....

    As noted at this blog (and some of other blogs), long ago, SETI's premise was wrong:

    " ... monitoring electromagnetic radiation for signs of transmissions from civilizations on other worlds." [Wikipedia]

    Drake, Sagan, Shostak, and Musk, among many others whom I respect have postured for futurizing the search, using new technologies. [https:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_for_extraterrestrial_intelligence]

    They want to be ready for any "message" that might come our way.....which is like the belief in The Second Coming of Christ; it is a faith-based belief or desire.

    But why would an advanced civilization -- and I mean "advanced" -- use, what to them, might be as primitive as smoke signals are to us today?

    We humans, scientists among us, are so childish, hoping to find species, like us, in the vast cosmos, to what end?

    Just to know we are not alone?

    Even if one or even two advanced civilizations reach us, we both (or all three) are virtually alone in the vast, dying Universe.

    We may get a temporary thrill and science that is useful for a number of human exigencies, but we will all be dead sooner than later, you and me now, and the whole of our race later on.

    It's a damnable optimism, that is theological in essence; a folly that was extant in the Middle Ages, from which thinking humans moved away from to enjoy the here and now, and what that here and now offers: classical music, poetry, good food and wine, and companionship or love.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Sunday, May 15, 2016  

  • RR,

    Where's the spirit of adventure in exploration and discovery?

    Sure poetry and fine food amid good company is nice but wonder as to the frontier serves a different need.

    Just to know we are not alone would uplifting with a promise of yet more to understand. -Hawking's reservations aside.

    And I sure don't see folly in SETI's EMF efforts at all. An interesting noble effort as I see it.

    A path to dimensional exploration would also sound interesting but one evades us. Heck we can't figure out the dark energy and matter indications.

    So, we go with what we have, right?


    By Blogger Bryan Daum, at Sunday, May 15, 2016  

  • Bryan...

    It's all for naught in the Earthly vale.

    The grim reaper will claim us all, and then we are in the black void of nothingness from which, some say the Universe began.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Sunday, May 15, 2016  

  • RR,

    Sure the Reaper gets us all.

    My take on that is that while we can't escape death we live on in our DNA. Had my first granddaughter born last week following three grandsons.

    On the DNA thing I'm being serious, and, while off topic a bit, the whole genetics aspect has us now "scientifically" able to look backward while, back on topic, we strive to look forward -and outward.

    I've been meaning to look for a blog on the depth of DNA testing that tells from whence we came. There has been some interesting Sci-Fi works and other projections that we might encounter 'others" only to find out that 'they is us.'


    By Blogger Bryan Daum, at Sunday, May 15, 2016  

  • DNA, Bryan, is so non-communicative, in the sense I look forward to, and it brings little pleasure, in the hedonistic way.

    But I keep seeing a lot of DNA postings from various agencies and science venues, coming my way on Facebook.

    It's a fascinating field, apparently, but as soon as see the word genome or DNA rubric, I turn the page.

    Maybe I shouldn't/


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, May 16, 2016  

  • I suggest it's an interesting diversion at the very least and just perhaps profound.

    We have CERN looking inward, and astrophysics looking outward.

    DNA looks inward on we observers and explorers.


    By Blogger Bryan Daum, at Monday, May 16, 2016  

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