UFO Conjecture(s)

Monday, June 27, 2016

A ufological stasis or a remission of madness?

The UFO community has, by and large, normalized it seems.

The crazies have dwindled, and can only be found at the fringes of the internet .

(Yes, they are still with us, but quiescent and ignored pretty much.)

During the “golden era” of flying saucer interest (the 1950s), persons attuned to the phenomenon were corralled by the limitations in communications.

Then the internet burst upon the scene, and in the 1990s and early 2000 years, UFO bumpkins sprouted like weeds, populating web-sites (UFO UpDates comes to mind) and other internet venues.

Yet, here in 2016, ufological voices are rather quiet, aficionados reflecting on their one-time madness I think, sobering up with common sense and a kind of insightful decorum.

Sure, there remain pockets of ufological psychoses but, over all, the terrain has normalized, or seems to.

Does the seeming “normalization” derive from the soporific UFO appearances or does it come about from an awareness by UFO followers that the phenomenon is not about to be explained, and may not be worth the trouble of explanation?



  • Indeed, a person has to ponder whether or not finding the explanation to classic UFO sightings (or recent ones) is really necessary, or for that matter critical to mankind's existence.

    Decades ago the USAF publicly stated these objects did not represent a threat to national security.

    Perhaps at first, like everyone, the Air Force was baffled. Overtime, however, they were able to establish that these objects (whatever they are) were simply benign. Allusive yes, but more akin to misty phantoms that appear and disappear at the blink of an eye.

    And so.....if UFOs offer no meaningful threat, does it really matter if we ever find out what's behind the phenomenon? Probably not.

    Life on Earth continues regardless of an answer.

    Sure, some people still believe extraterrestrials are to blame, yet nearly 70+ years later our modern science still hasn't any real evidence alien visitors are the culprits.

    Chasing UFOs may simply be an exercise in futility without any real purpose, especially if finding the truth offers no real consequences one way or the other.

    Not surprisingly, there remain many things on this Earth that are mysterious and unexplained. Yet in truth it matters very little.

    For example, the bottom of our oceans remain virtually unexplored. We know almost nothing of the life or geology at these great depths.

    Despite the mystery, we carry on without any concern.

    Such is the case with UFOs......or is it?

    By Blogger Brian Bell, at Tuesday, June 28, 2016  

  • I'm with you a 1000% Brian.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, June 28, 2016  

  • I'd agree with the caveat that the truth really does matter. While apparently begin, presented with a phenomena observation and investigation to move toward understanding are in order if not essential.

    -Or we just sally forth in a dulled naivety, which I clearly recognize you are not suggesting.

    By Blogger Bryan Daum, at Wednesday, June 29, 2016  

  • I'm arguing elsewhere (Facebook) with my academic pal Bryan Sentes about how awareness (and understanding) comes from the gods, to the favored.

    Epiphanies abound to those graced by the gods -- you know the names of those who have been so endowed, in music, art, science, medicine, et cetera.

    So, sometimes Bryan Daum, investigation takes a back seat, and truths show up, unannounced and profound.

    One might hope this will be the case with UFOs, since observation and "research" have not been helpful in the matter.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, June 29, 2016  

  • @RRRGroup

    Or maybe the gods will suggest an investigation, instead of handing us the answers on a silver platter.

    For instance, there are many, many videos of UFOs showing black halos. Circa 1911 George Samuel Piggott conducted experiments with a wireless telegraph apparatus that produced very similar effects. The black halos were evident and there were also inexplicable levitation effects. ( http://scripturalphysics.org/4v4a/ADVPROP.html#PiggottLinks ) Tesla saw similar effects during his experiments at Colorado Springs.

    Investigating this would be hard-core, reproducible science. We could surely learn something useful and beneficial from it.

    We also need to promote knowledge of "non-local physics", which is the kind of physics evidently being used by UFOs. Here is an example from "Beyond Einstein: Non-local physics" by Brian Fraser (2015):

    "You have no doubt heard people say things like “according to Einstein, nothing can travel faster than light”. But the existence of aberration free forces which appear to have instantaneous effects (“faster than light”) even over large distances, was simply not recognized in 1905 when Special Relativity was introduced. Einstein himself noticed some problems in this regard in a 1935 paper which is now referred to as the EPR paradox. In the following decades more and more experiments revealed more and more problems. But these “faster than light” problems are simply outside the scope of SR and GR; a “local” theory cannot treat truly non-local phenomena in a satisfactory manner."

    Here is another example from the same paper:
    "there are two kinds of position and two kinds of velocity. Remember those two terms in the non-local form of gamma? We are using only one of them for propulsion—the spatial velocity one that depends on Newtonian mechanics. The other possibility, that of non-local motion, has been left unexplored. Using that, an aircraft could move from one position in the sky to another without traversing the intervening space. It would appear at one location, then disappear, then re-appear at another location. It could move at extremely high speeds without generating a sonic boom. It would use “field propulsion” based on the non-local characteristics of electric and magnetic fields. It would be completely self-contained because there is no action/reaction (exhaust) as in conventional propulsion (in this case, the reaction forces are radial, and cancel out within the structure of the aircraft, making the preferred shape one of something with radial symmetry, like a saucer or cigar)."

    Two different kinds of non-local physics are discussed. One of these can be used for non-local propulsion (going to the stars without traversing the intervening space, which also avoids the energy problem, the ageing problem, the food problem, the waste-disposal problem, . . . ). Again, this would give us some insights into what kind of physics and propulsion technology are used by UFOs.

    The paper can be downloaded from: http://scripturalphysics.org/4v4a/BeyondEinstein.html The .html file gives a link to the .pdf file but the former has additional information, and many more links and insights.

    How about someone doing some "hard science" on these topics? Or should we instead be content with griping about how screwed-up the UFO community is?

    By Blogger Brian F, at Friday, July 01, 2016  

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