posted by RRRGroup at
Tuesday, July 19, 2016
Since no one else wants to comment on this, I will. And this comment will cover all of Rich's very similar comments over the years on how "inconsequential" we and our planet are and how, therefore, it is simply absurd to believe that we could be of interest to alleged aliens. Given present knowledge, we are the only known planet with intelligent life. Despite all of the reckless speculative models on how much "life" there MUST be in the universe, no intelligence life anywhere else has ever surfaced. Therefore, it is more than possible that despite our physical insignificance, that we are unique, that we are the "black swan" event in the cosmos. (Nothing precludes this. There is no necessary and sufficient condition for intelligent life anywhere else). And if you say no to all of this, I say that I will make an exception to satisfy your skepticism: the aliens (or AI) that come visit are a "black swan" event, also. Hence there interest in us historically. And to get around the correct criticism that there are far too many UFO reports (makes no scientific or economic sense)to imply alien interest in Earth, I say that 99% of all UFO reports are exactly as ZOAM and other critics contend: misidentifications of man-made or natural events. But that leaves a very, very small residue of cases that may (and I stress may) imply intelligent (and AI is included) visitations.
By Dominick, at Wednesday, July 20, 2016
Dominick:You pose a sensible thesis.But it's like saying that one grain of sand in the Saharan desert is green and therefore persons looking for such uniqueness should seek it out.Sure, humans seem to be intelligent but there has to be much more intelligent species in the cosmos. (We are like animals in the Serengeti, brutish and intellectually raw compared to a species advanced enough to search for life -- intelligent life -- in the Universe or even our own little galaxy.)Yet, you know I think that, maybe (the operative word), UFOs (a few) are AI probes sent out looking for like life-forms and may have stumbled upon Earth and its wayward conglomeration of species, odd and diverse.All I'm railing against is the overwhelming stupidity by UFO buffs -- not you or others who slink in here -- who think ETs are all over the place, flying overhead, crashing in large numbers, and infiltrating societies or governments.ETs, for me, are like God, not in abundance nor anywhere in sight, generally. (There may have been, or are, glimpses, but that's about it; nothing to get worked up about.)RR
By RRRGroup, at Wednesday, July 20, 2016
I love this post. I have had this mindset for a very long time now. Most people might shy away from this as they try to find some importance to their existence and the meaning of life- but I find it comforting. Life often throws curveballs at us, and sometimes if you aren't careful they can become overwhelming. This is when I like to remind myself of how insignificant we are. That we are a tiny blue spec floating in an infinite ocean of emptiness. Our individual lifespans so short that we barely exist in the first place. it doesn't mean I don't believe in the possibility of life beyond our planet, or maybe even the possibility that we have been visited.
By Daniel Hurd, at Wednesday, July 20, 2016
Well said Dominick. You made some really good points. If we are one of the only planets with intelligent life, it would give us some pretty amazing significance.
Imagine that we are the only 'intelligent' life form, what measure do we use to indicate that we then have significance?
By scherben, at Wednesday, July 20, 2016
Touché Scherben. Uniqueness may be a more appropriate term.
Excellent point :) (I wasn't actually trying to score points from you; merely wondering (but hopefully not JAQing off) http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions
By scherben, at Thursday, July 21, 2016
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