UFO Conjecture(s)

Tuesday, August 02, 2016

What has anyone learned from (or about) UFOs? Nada, zilch, zip, bupkis….

Ancient Astronaut theorists insist that extraterrestrials seeded humanity and taught its progeny to build artifacts while providing assistance with the vicissitudes of survival.

But non-ET aided humans circumvented the alleged ET-proffered advice and teachings, even the supposed ET help in building edifices, eventually doing an end-run around the primitive constructions [pyramids, stone monuments, city-states, et cetera], creating buildings and living venues that, while not as long-lived as the primitive constructs, have been more practical, economically feasible, and ingenious.

AA’s ETs brought nothing to the practical evolutionary thrusts of humanity, nothing of long-lasting value, except, perhaps, an elemental aesthetic.

Skipping forward to the modern era of flying saucers or UFOs, what has the phenomenon brought to the table of humankind’s advancement?

Even allowing for the crazy ET-oriented back-engineering of alleged crashed UFOs, where is any evidence that UFOs have supplied something(s) worthwhile, in aviation or anything else?

The phenomenon shows up, creates surprise and awe (sometimes), then departs, leaving nothing of substance in it evanescent wake.

Mankind or society has garnered not a whit of anything worthwhile from the appearances of UFOs.

Sure, UFO supposedly exhibit speed and aerial machinations, but has any of that been useful, even if back-engineered [haha], to mankind or its militaries? No, not at all.

Those alleged encounters with “beings” that seem to debark from flying saucers or UFOs have introduced nothing of practical or impractical value to human beings, then or now.

The phenomenon is a bust, worthy of a kaleidoscopic experience and that’s about it.

UFOs have given us nothing and continue to give us nothing, even those UFOs that apparently contain advanced beings from galaxies far, far away.

RR

18 Comments:

  • Of course they have given us nothing. Have you forgotten the Star Treck Prime Directive? Observe...but No Interference.

    By Blogger Dominick, at Tuesday, August 02, 2016  

  • So fiction is reality now, Dom?

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, August 02, 2016  

  • Rodenberry got so many things correct (about the future) that it's downright scary. I was tounge-in-cheek with my comments on yours but if there are aliens (or AI)(and it's a huge IF), non-interference is a reasonable strategy. Some of the best fiction can give us unique insights into "reality."

    By Blogger Dominick, at Tuesday, August 02, 2016  

  • Rich -

    When I was studying anthropology many of the professors often told us to observe but not to interfere and one than one referred to it as the prime directive.

    By Blogger KRandle, at Tuesday, August 02, 2016  

  • Was your professor called Spock, Kevin?

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, August 02, 2016  

  • You fellows recall that the AA crowd insists that extraterrestrials did and do interfere.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, August 02, 2016  

  • Rich -

    No but Spock'e idiot brother taught astronomy... and I wasn't arguing for AA, only that the observe but don't interfere was going around in anthropology because you made the fiction comment.

    By Blogger KRandle, at Tuesday, August 02, 2016  

  • But the point, Kevin et al. is...

    Some see the "directive" intact while others do not, confirming my view, yes?

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, August 02, 2016  

  • The AA crowd plays with half a deck and should be ignored. From what I can tell, their "analysis" (and I use that term with great caution) of ancient oddities has absolutely no rational connection to the modern UFO phenomena. AA theories and evidence are to Ufology what astrology is to astronomy.

    By Blogger Dominick, at Tuesday, August 02, 2016  

  • What's your feelings about Graham Hancock, Dominick (or anyone else)?

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, August 02, 2016  

  • Hello,

    I regret, we have learned something by (thank's) the ufo-culture...

    When you dont identify something in the sky, you have a new lexicon culturally available: call it UFO!
    This is less stupid in our modern days than saying "I do not know what it is."

    Regards,

    Gilles Fernandez

    By Blogger Gilles Fernandez, at Wednesday, August 03, 2016  

  • Gilles,

    As usual you make a valid, good point.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, August 03, 2016  

  • "Mankind or society has garnered not a whit of anything worthwhile from the appearances of UFOs."

    That is because UFOs have been treated as fascinating mysteries, not anything practical.

    There are many, many UFO sightings showing "black halos" associated with UFOs. These are of interest because similar effects can be produced in a laboratory. Circa 1911 George Samuel Piggott conducted experiments with a wireless telegraph apparatus that produced very similar black halo effects in a laboratory setting. The black halos were plainly evident and there were also inexplicable levitation effects. ( http://scripturalphysics.org/4v4a/ADVPROP.html#PiggottLinks ) Tesla saw similar "black band" and "black streamer" effects during his experiments at Colorado Springs. Strange physical forces were also evident.

    The black halos, coupled with Piggott's experiments, offer solid clues about how UFO propulsion systems operate (discussed later on in the same article). This kind of thing could be studied up close and personal in a laboratory. What we learn about the science and technology could be quite valuable.

    Anybody interested?

    Or are we still wondering why the transdimensional, shape-shifting lizard people are trying to get Hillary Clinton elected President?

    By Blogger Brian F, at Wednesday, August 03, 2016  

  • Brian F.....

    Sure, there have been aspects of UFO sightings that provoke interesting hypotheses, such as your propulsion citation.

    But has anyone capitalized on such hypotheses or hints? Nope.

    Nothing practical or worthwhile has been forthcoming from the phenomenon, not secretly and certainly not publicly.

    UFOs have given us nothing, but a raft of silly conjectures (like my own) all over the internet and elsewhere.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, August 03, 2016  

  • "These are of interest because similar effects can be produced in a laboratory"

    Hello,

    But before to speak and speculate about propulsion of hypothetical spacecraft, we must admit that cognitive psychology have replicated the cognitive projections/elaborations mecanisms when individuals are facing a stimulus in the sky without real signification or difficult to identify for what it is in reality and the experimenter asking them after to draw what they saw (or believe to have seen):
    Some subjects have "saucerized" the stimulus, adding structure(s), windows, propulsion, motors, etc.
    QED.

    In other words, SPH is laboratory testable and validated.

    If you are interested by such experiments, and in particular by UFO drawings and their consequences, please go to "Human Inter-Individual Variability in Perception, Memorization and Restoration of an Event or Stimulus" in:
    http://skepticversustheflyingsaucers.blogspot.fr/2014/01/cracking-189697-airships-mystery-toward_11.html

    Best Regards,

    Gilles

    By Blogger Gilles Fernandez, at Thursday, August 04, 2016  


  • @RRRGroup
    "But has anyone capitalized on such hypotheses or hints? Nothing practical or worthwhile has been forthcoming from the phenomenon . . ."

    Hey, no surprise there! Example: I published a bunch of experiments detailing a method of changing the half-lives of radioactive nuclides and of destroying (not merely storing) radioactive wastes. I used actual radioactive materials, a Geiger counter and a computer. Years later I learned that other people had figured out essentially the same thing--about 40 years prior, and maybe even as far back as the 1920s. There was even a documentary shown on Good Morning America about a similar process with more advanced equipment. I informed Senator John McCain (re: Yucca Mountain repository) and the Blue Ribbon Commission on America's Nuclear Future of my results. Prior to all this, Dr. G.H. Miley, wrote U.S. Department of Energy Nuclear Energy Research Initiative (1999), Proposal No. 99-0222 to use a similar method to ameliorate nuclear waste. And you know what happened?

    NOTHING! Utterly NOTHING! Nobody was interested. Companies can earn far more money STORING the stuff. It was just as you say about UFOs: "Nothing practical or worthwhile has been forthcoming from the phenomenon, not secretly and certainly not publicly."

    Welcome to the government sanctioned sit-on-your-butt club.

    I published my study, "Adventures in Energy Destruction" at:
    http://scripturalphysics.org/qm/adven.html

    Plenty is known about UFOs and UFO propulsion physics by the "shadow physics community". They just cannot DO anything with it.

    By Blogger Brian F, at Thursday, August 04, 2016  

  • Maybe there are some guys who have been inspired by some UFO or pro ETH ideas in order to make scientific discoveries or technological advancements, or have provided sound scientific explanations to some phenomena. They might be just not wanting to tell it to anybody. Einstein said that "the secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your source".

    By Blogger Don Maor, at Saturday, August 06, 2016  

  • That'sounds a possibility, Don.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Saturday, August 06, 2016  

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