UFO Conjectures

Wednesday, January 18, 2017

Seeing Things

That human beings have seen odd things, since time immemorial, is evidenced by their noting (recording) their observations, sometimes, even providing proof” of their observations by drawing or painting what they saw or think they saw.

There are countless examples in the lore that has accumulated within the “literature” of ufology. (I needn’t remind you of that literature, I hope.)

But what about the examples of odd things seen and notated in the psychiatric and psychological literature, and lately in the annals of neurology?

Even the pastiche of journalistic examples is large, although too dispersed to be helpful to those wishing to cite the reportage.

My point is that we have, at our disposal, a quantity of records that indicate a lot of people have seen and reported observations of things that are outside the normal reality.

Skeptics, such as Zoam Chomsky, Gilles Fernandez, Robert Sheaffer, and Tim Printy, scoff at the tales of odd sightings that people have related to others.

And while some of those sightings may well be hallucinatory or neurological glitches, all cannot surely be set aside as malfunctions of sight or brain.

Or tales told by idiots.

As Sean Carroll, a theoretical physicist at Cal Tech, writes in his book The Big Picture [Dutton/Penguin Random House, NY, 2016], “ … an eliminativist will say ‘and therefore they are illusions,’ while the poetic naturalist says, ‘but they are no less real for all of that.’” [Page 20]
(I shall have much more to say about physicist Carroll’s book upcoming. He differentiates the Big Bang from the Big Bang Model, the former, the Big Bang, an enigma to science, the Model explaining what happened after the Big Bang.)

I looked through Aubeck/Vallee’s Wonders in the Sky for sightings similar or like that noted in my January 14th posting about the event reported by Micah Hanks, involving a military man, Steven, who, with others, were encompassed by a huge, black something-or-other that encompassed the island he and others were on, but faded from view when sunrise occurred.
The incident appears to be unique. While here were a few early recorded sightings with similar meteorological attributes, I found none that had the intensity recalled by Steven from his 1988 sighting.

Then there are sightings and weird episodes listed by Albert Rosales in his new 1900-1929 Humanoid Encounters book, many remembered rather than appearing originally in their time-frame.
The Rosales’ accounts have to be digested with the memory caveats intrinsic to recalled events, but the tales intrigue, whether bungled or confabulated because of their distance from the time they allegedly occurred to the time of their (re)telling, but not discounted out-of-hand.

(You know I believe that people report what they see rather accurately, even taking into account the vicissitudes of observational malfunction, the core of their observations intact pretty much.)

Odd things occur outside the normal scheme of things – ghosts, obtuse entities, UFOs, et al. – and we have to accept them as actual or part and parcel of what is known as the paranormal environment.

The world is fraught with odd incidents and oblique happenings, observations, and queer events. It always has been, as indicated by religious texts, mythical tales, and recorded history.

People see things….normal people, not just psychotics.

To discount their recollections and reportage is not scientific, or sensible.



  • At long last, A breath of fresh air!....

    [People see things...."normal people," not just psychotics]

    [To discount their recollections and reportage is not scientific, or sensible]

    We embrace this!.. yes, yes, yes!.....

    If 5 or 100 people, see something, that does not fit the norm, we tend to sit up and pay attention. They are NOT all loony-tunes out there, that some, would have us think.................

    By Blogger Daniel, at Thursday, January 19, 2017  

  • But of course, Daniel, there is mass hysteria and societal madness.



    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, January 19, 2017  

  • When you say:.. madness; You mean, excitement for the truth in Disclosure, on UFO Yeah?:).............

    By Blogger Daniel, at Thursday, January 19, 2017  

  • Madness in the Foucaultian sense, Daniel.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, January 19, 2017  

  • Speaking of seeing things. Two nights ago the t.v. show "Paranormall Witness" rebroadcast their extended account of the Trumbull County (Ohio) UFO encounter (1994). A dozen police officers from several different counties saw and chased a large bright UFO for more than 30 minutes. One police vehicle (the first on the scene) was engulfed in an intense bright light and reportedly had the car engine and lights die totally with no ability to restart. Radio communications between the officer and police station was non-existent at the same time (confirmed by dispatcher at Police Station). Next, officer exited the car and while out of the car he reported that it restarted with lights and radio again working normally. Officer was totally shaken by the events and could not explain any of it.

    What are we to make of this? If it all happened as reported, that is, if multiple witnesses accurately reported what they saw, then the episode is totally inexplicable in conventional terms. An intense bright light (perhaps as large as a football field according to the cop)cannot stop a car, stop communications, and car engines and lights cannot spontaneously restart as the light moves away. Just can't happen in conventional terms. But it did happen (unless everyone is lying or studid or blind.) Skeptics will dismiss it all as misidentification or simply assert that the officer does not remember shutting down the vehicle or restarting it again. So we are back to square one. You either believe that individuals can, for the most part, report accurately what they observe. Or you invent an alternative "reality" that allows you to simply dismiss the entire episode.

    By Blogger Dominick, at Thursday, January 19, 2017  

  • Well, Dominick...

    Skeptics have a number of possibilities to offer: mass hysteria, an obtuse meteorological event, a projection of the Matrix, or Vallee's control agent or Caravaca's "external agent" -- the latter two not amenable to skeptical consideration perhaps.

    What the coppers saw and experienced could have been a misperceived military exercise or an inter-dimensional intrusion or something from a time-warp, again, the latter two not acceptable to skeptics I imagine.

    Then they can resort to confabulation, a stretch considering the "witnesses" but there it is.

    The sighting/report is not as cut-and-dry as you insinuate.

    Interesting certainly but that's about it.

    A forensic investigation was (or is) needed.

    The show Paranormal Witness and others like it are eschewed by actual journalists and surely scientists or rigorous UFO investigators, few as there may be of those.

    The observation may have been reported rather accurately but the interpretation is open to explanation.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, January 19, 2017  

  • Rich, there can be no "forensic investigation." These are "one off" episodes that strike without warning and often disappear without a (physical) trace. It could be aliens, it could be AI, it could be time warp, it could be some military exercise. The best that we can do is talk to the witnesses, see if their stories are consistent (they were)check with the near-by airport radar (nothing on radar)and conclude that we have no idea what was observed that night. A forensic investigation requires a "corpse" and we simply never have one.

    By Blogger Dominick, at Thursday, January 19, 2017  

  • Dominick:

    Forensics for me involves, for this episode, an examination of the weather data, the cars' mechanicals, brain scans of the cops, psychology tests, and a few other things.

    It's a kind of autopsy, without a body (or corpse), just a thorough scrutiny of things that might cause such an observation.

    (Yes, I know it's too late for such now, but would have made sense when the incident was reported.)


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, January 19, 2017  

  • O.K. ideally, I agree with you. In a perfect world we would want to do all of the things that you suggest and even more. BUT that never even happens in 98% of legal cases where observations (and even facts) are in dispute. And it certainly will NEVER happen in any UFO case. Who would pay for it? What witness would ever submit to any brain scan?! or any psychological testing? What university physics department would want to be associated with this sort of investigation? Sure, we can call for such forensics but such calls are really in vain.

    The Trumbull case involved multiple witnesses in clear weather over more than a 30 minute time period. An very large and intense bright was observed and several witnesses reported a super-structure to the light. No noise whatever and disappearance was "instantaneous", i.e. it didn't "fly" away. A police car was stopped and communications between car and base were disrupted. Those are the observational facts and they are not really in serious dispute. The interpretation of the events are, of course, debatable speculations. But the observational facts are not. Without a "body" nothing more definitive is really possible.

    By Blogger Dominick, at Friday, January 20, 2017  

  • I agree Dominick...

    It's impractical to do a full investigation of such events, but if we humans really want to know the truth of things, a "forensic" investigation is necessary.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, January 20, 2017  

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