UFO Conjecture(s)

Sunday, March 19, 2017

The ET Dilemma

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Most visitors to this blog know that I’m dead set against the ETH, the so-called Extraterrestrial Hypothesis.

Even as I postulate the idea that UFOs may be kinds of von Neumann-like probes, using a few UFO accounts to bolster that view; i.e., the Gorman dogfight, the Stephan Michalak and Robert Taylor encounters, I have to concede that AI machines (or robots) from another planet would not have technical appurtenances like those we have on Earth, as the evolution of technology and machinery or robotics are unique to Earth, just as Darwinian evolution is unique to Earth, and Earth alone.

A species, supposedly advanced, coming to Earth from someplace in our Galaxy or from a place in the Universe would in no way be like us, except in one case (which I’ll note in a moment).

I haven’t seen the movie The Arrival yet -- (I don’t go to movie theaters to mingle with the rabble.) – but from what reviews I’ve read and snippets on TV, I think the idea of a communicative species, with “emotion” and opportunistic desires are verboten in the same way that biologic or technological similarities are.

Earthlings have a unique psychological make up. A species from elsewhere couldn’t even come close to replicating the psychological make-up of humanity, unless….

UFOs as a phenomenon may seem to be intelligently controlled craft, which is a projection of witnesses.

Encounters with beings, allegedly alighting from such craft, are explained by Jose Antonio Caravaca’s Distortion Theory (or perhaps Vallee’s psychic manipulators).

I’ve been looking through my collected UFO literature, as some of you know, and I haven’t been able to locate one UFO event, not one, that bespeaks an observation or encounter with an alien species from outer space.

I’m prone to accept the inter-dimensional explanation or time-travel scenario, or this:

If there is an ineffable intelligence, an Almighty Spirit, as Klaatu intoned in The Day the Earth Stood Still, or a Star Wars Force, that permeates the Universe, then one can see how sentient beings might be the ubiquitous template of creation from an omnipotent, omnipresent entity.

And if there is omnipotent presence that is the Universe or thought the Universe into existence – a thing we may call God – then one can imagine beings not unlike us, with vehicles not that far from something we might construct, having existence, and alive (created) because of the methodologies or mechanisms of that “God” or supreme being.

And those beings, from the mind of “God” might show up here, now and then.

But then there is that visitation problem: why would so many sentient, advanced, creative beings be coming to this planet in the droves that UFO data seem to indicate?

That’s one of the flaws in the ETH.

Even time-travelers or inter-dimensional intrusions can be dismissed for the same reason(s).

Yep, the ET explanation for UFOs is not an option for intelligent humans, not at all.

RR

16 Comments:

  • Is not a UFO; as a craft, "A vehicle" to transport something, if not Extraterrestrials!?...If there are NO Extraterrestrials, what is the point of the so called UFO Craft, as a vehicle, that witnesses see around Earth, & out in space?
    The witnesses of such sightings, can't all be that loopy, that I'm sure.

    It seems to me, what you have ruled out, in your comment, hypothetically, only leaves room, suggesting, that witnesses of UFO are seeing an "apparition" in essence, of something that the primary character of something, could determine the class, to which it belongs. Would not this be in your favour of study, as you would like to believe, and not really holding, to any reports from around the world, in the thousands, that most UFO Buffs are focused on................

    By Blogger Daniel, at Monday, March 20, 2017  

  • Daniel:

    You offer: "reports from around the world, in the thousands, that most UFO Buffs are focused on..............."

    Do you imagine that an "intelligent" species would be sending thousands of ships with crews to Earth? That would be insane.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, March 20, 2017  

  • I think they are not sending thousands, but millions.

    By Blogger Don Maor, at Monday, March 20, 2017  

  • Hahahaha, Don:

    You just had your morning coffee I assume.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, March 20, 2017  

  • I don't know. I mean, if humans can be strange attractors to pulsing quantum platonic solid artifacts from the early universe, then that would be some kind of entanglement and some kind of seizure. Probably more than millions, just responses to lodging neutrinos.

    Astrophysicists tell stories about pulsars and quasars, and singularities.
    Hard to know if the distance or the timing exists apart from the stories.

    I guess supplying context is one job. Running around and looking for that is another. Don't know if that is intentional or just what happens anyway. Maybe high energy stuff and responses create just a sine wave. Narrative arcs, and such.

    By Blogger neal, at Monday, March 20, 2017  

  • Good morning, Rich, Don;)..

    Noooo! Rich, not thousands or millions:)..You can have hundreds of reports just seeing one ship, yeah? but thousands over what time frame, would be the thought in mind.. To imagine thousand of ships & crews all at one time, might be a bit over the top, & illogical...

    I don't know if you have seen any of: "Ed Grimsley" video's or not, he claims, & still does see, with "Night Vision binoculars" many UFO at night, if you look in the right place, of the night sky, he says!..His point is, there is a war going on up there, as he sees it, and he is not the only one, seeing this, many have reported seeing the same thing. This could explain some of the UFO crashes down here, & the reports of extraordinary manoeuvers seen with UFO..............

    By Blogger Daniel, at Monday, March 20, 2017  

  • Daniel...

    For me, and it's only my opinion or view, hundreds or any large number of UFOs being visitors from alien worlds, is ludicrous and insane.

    An advanced species, unless it consisted of a huge, massive population with lots of time on their "hands" and free of an Earth-like economy, would not send legions of ships or vehicles to survey this pathetic (comparative to the alien planet sending forth such missions) planet.

    You want UFOs to be ET craft. I'm happy for you, but your view, in my opinion, is irrational, based on the points I've made in my post above.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, March 20, 2017  

  • Your suggestion that I want UFO to be an ET craft, is irrelevant to me, not at all true! What I'm saying is, it is logical to "assume" a craft is occupied with something, an AI you believe!? and some think ETs!? I don't know, maybe both, in some cases...

    It has also been suggested that some UFO, come from huge underground bases here on Earth, in varying places, and not have the need to travel in deep space, the vast distances that have been rejected, as impossible, but they here aren't they!?...

    You have seen them, I have seen them, others have seen them. What is irrational about that? other than its a mystery looking for an answer...............

    By Blogger Daniel, at Monday, March 20, 2017  

  • All of us UFO buffs, Daniel, want UFOs to be something.

    But, in the great scheme of things, they are nothing....but a queer curiosity, a minor enigma.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, March 20, 2017  

  • I don't wish for UFOs to be anything, other than the mystery it poses right now, because of what we & others have seen, and for now, only presents..a queer curiosity as a minor enigma, as YOU put it, yes! But from what I'm hearing on the net right now, it may be much more than what you realize, or what any of us realize, if it come to that. Keep a lookout on news unfolding as we speak, on:

    What is going on in Antarctica, two miles under the ice.

    There is Radio talk, on it; Videos, you name it!?...What's going on down there?.............?

    By Blogger Daniel, at Monday, March 20, 2017  

  • All of your anti-ET theories fail if, and I say if, we humans were "seeded" by an alien race eons ago....and they come to check, periodically, to see how things are going.

    By Blogger Dominick, at Monday, March 20, 2017  

  • But in the numbers indicated by the plethora of UFO reports, Dominick?

    Even scientists absorbed by the Antarctic, as Daniel, references, aren't down there in the numbers comparable to aliens supposedly visiting Earth to see their offspring.

    It's ludicrous. (A few probes would gather the information and get it back to the "home planet" much as nature photographers take film and/or video and provide it to the rest of us via magazines and television.)

    You ET believers are nice guys, just naive.

    (And remember, my views don't discount yours at a personal level -- although they may seem to. I'm merely conjecturing for the argument, a kind of devil's advocate as it were.)

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, March 20, 2017  

  • Rich, throw away the numbers problem. 98% of UFO reports are misidentified natural or artificial phenomena. See, I'm not a "belivever" but a true "skeptic." Two percent, at most, may be probes (AI) and those are manageable numbers for some (way) advanced race (thousands of years) that has vast resources since it has solved most economic scarcity problems. ET impossible? Not at all if we use some imagination.

    By Blogger Dominick, at Monday, March 20, 2017  

  • But then, Dom, we have to explain why Earth was the seeding spot or one of them?

    We are a backwater planet. You know that.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, March 20, 2017  

  • "Seeding" on a backwater planet. I'll buy that. Interesting long-term experiment for a very advanced race of curious aliens. And get this. I find this FAR more probable than some of the outrageous theories offered up for UFO sightings.

    By Blogger Dominick, at Monday, March 20, 2017  

  • Ok..i´m not saying that it was Aliens...but it was Aliens! ^^

    By Blogger Michael Loengard, at Monday, March 20, 2017  

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