UFO Conjectures

Thursday, July 26, 2012

Quantum UFOs: Entanglement?


We’ve previously posed here the idea that UFOs may be macro-quantum artifacts:


And there is a way to test that hypothesis.

If UFOs are macro-particles of quantum, they’d be subject to quantum entanglement; that is, a UFO seen in one place would mimic a UFO in another place, in the same time frame.

The actions of one UFO would duplicate the actions of another UFO elsewhere, distance not a factor, as is the case with quantum particles generally.

The Foo Fighters during World War II (the 1940s). the 1948 green fireball sightings, the 1952 Washington D.C. sightings, the 1965 Exeter, New Hampshire sightings, the 1978 Kaikoura, New Zealand sightings, the 1979 Valencia, Spain incident, the 1981 Hudson valley sightings, the 1986 Sao Paulo/Rio de Janeiro sightings, the notable 1086 Japan airlines sighting near Alaska, the 1991 Space Shuttle incident(s), the 2001 Carteret, NJ sightings, the 2004 Tinley Park, Illinois sightings, the 2007 Alderney, Guernsey sightings, the 2008 Stephenville, Texas sightings had UFOs that behaved like quantum particles.

But a few other sightings, such as the May through September sightings (videotaped) in Istanbul, Turkey, the June 2008 Moscow sightings, with adjunct sightings in St. Petersburg and Novosibirsk, and the 2011 Yerevan/Armavir/Syunik, Armenia sightings indicated entanglement-like behavior.

We’ll engage in a diligent search of other sightings to see if there are concomitant sightings at the same time, in a different location, where the UFO maneuvers duplicate each other.

Google “macro-quantum artifacts” for material about the concept.

That UFOs are or behave as quantum particles might go towards a methodology of UFO study but, like quantum mechanics, will continue to remain as elusive as the various aspects of quantum theory, such as entanglement, so the pursuit of our conjecture will prove futile, ultimately, but interesting for the theoretical among you we think.



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    By Blogger Sebastian Clouth, at Saturday, July 28, 2012  

  • Back in June you noted in a comment "Quantum is a "reality" for the truly mentally ill...".

    Now you're suggesting that quantum mechanics explains some UFO sightings.

    Your faithful readership is somewhat confused by your shift in point of view. I'm just sayin' . . .

    By Blogger purrlgurrl, at Saturday, July 28, 2012  

  • PG:

    My position is fixed in stone.

    Quantum may explain UFOs.

    Quantum is an insane view of things.

    Therefore UFOs are an insane phenomenon.

    That is, UFOs are artifacts of a mental disturbance, which has been the theme here for some time.

    Not that UFOs are unreal, but that they are as real as the voices and images that schizophrenics experience.

    And those (of us) with mental quirks and some with real mental problems -- psychiatric problems -- are drawn to UFOs and the study of them.

    Most of my psychologically oriented buddies know, intuitively, that they have mental problems. That's what draws them to psychology.

    Psychiatrists are persons with some serious problems, who hope to find a cure for those problems by getting into the profession.

    UFO buffs are quirky, as I've noted over and over again.

    Some are psychotic and/or pathological; a few keep trying to post comments here.

    Physicists who are drawn to Quantum mechanics have insight to their own disoriented lives and thinking -- read biographies of them -- and flow toward a reality that mimics that disorientation -- quantum reality.

    Einstein eschewed quantum theory. He knew it was insane, just as the Big Bang theory is insane.

    So quantum attracts the mentally ill, just as UFOs do.....us among them.

    The truly sane person would follow the procedure of Melville's The Scrivener, who didn't move or do anything, saying "I prefer not to."

    In this world of ours, that's the sane position -- which schizophrenics adopt, making them truly sane.

    The rest of us go about our lives accepting and playing within the craziness of our society and surroundings. (The recent Aurora shootings and the Syrian battles are examples of humankind acting insane, with most of us accepting the insanity by going on with our lives, playing at ufology, or going to the beach, or watching the Olympics.)

    Quantum theory is nuts, UFOs are too.

    And we who are absorbed by either need some real therapy.

    Still confused?

    Let me know...


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Saturday, July 28, 2012  

  • RR isn't this We're All Insane to Some Degree touched upon by such traditional tales as The Tiger that Thought It was a Goat?

    Because the tiger cub's been raised by goats it thinks it's a goat yet every so often to the distress of its 'family' it finds itself doing distinctly tigerish things which both it and its family view as manifestations of madness hence everyone's relief when it starts acting goat-like again.

    Meanwhile another tiger observing discreetly from afar sees things the other way round.

    It's when the outsized stripey 'goat' behaves like a tiger it appears sane. When it starts acting like a goat again it appears completely bonkers.

    And when the second tiger finally emerges from its hiding place to introduce himself it seems to the tiger-'goat' it's the tiger who's insane with his talk of slaughtering the tiger-'goat''s 'family' and his invitation to join in.

    Finally accepting it's now somehow become both a goat AND a tiger ie a goat-tiger it drives off the other tiger realising it's go'n'o have to find some way of existing in both worlds no matter how mad it'll appear to everyone else.

    By Blogger alanborky, at Saturday, July 28, 2012  

  • Thank you Alan...

    Your tale is well-taken.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Saturday, July 28, 2012  

  • Rich,
    Thank you for the link to the former UFO/I submission. I enjoyed that as well as the comments.

    I certainly don't think it's a far stretch to suggest that UFOs seem to observably demonstrate operative abilities in principle, that are akin to our basic understanding of quantum theory.

    The aspects of Entanglement theory, both measurable and observational, do in fact jibe with many UFO reports.

    However, that doesn't mean they'd have to be Macro Particles to demonstrate as much despite mimicking theoretical behavior attributed to a theoretical substance. They may in fact be devices that employ energy containment, maintenance, and conversion technologies that we can only relate in part to because of our entrained observational relevance to Quantum Theory.

    I am empathetic to your insanity supposition and posture having questioned my own many times. Because a great deal of extremely legitimate and well founded scientific research now points to a firm underlying presupposition that reality's behavior bears more relevance to our observation of it, than it does as being a constant apart from us, this can be quite unsettling. It's also comforting to know that as the rational mind is stretched and torn beyond it's esthetic intellectual orientation, grounded to the obvious, our very awareness of such a quandary renders us as being non pathological in the text book sense. Hence our awareness of as much, as insanity precludes such an awareness, you can be certain we are healthy to a greater or lesser extent. ;-)

    Within life, concerning the vexing and dogged pursuit of brutal truths that lie well beyond our present state of a solid working comprehension, there exists a mortally dangerous illusion that is the pursuers ultimate threat to his/her sanity. Einstein himself fell victim to as much several times and indeed suffered multiple nervous break downs as a result. In the process of coming to grips with what would powerfully shape science and progress for a considerable number of years to follow, a vacuous status of mind/spirit engulfed him, much like many of those who have pursued various para-truths have in fact experienced.

    One of the greatest, intensely rational, and indeed soundly productive scientific rational minds of the last deca-millennial time frame, offered up the following sign post as a hopeful & mutual preventative for all those noble enough to suffer such a malady of disorientation.

    "Anybody who has been seriously engaged in scientific work of any kind realizes that over the entrance to the gates of the temple of science are written the words: Ye must have faith. It is a quality which the scientist cannot dispense with."
    Max Planck

    As much as we all at one time or another in a healthy state of aloof and rested post sight, have wanted to attribute the sum of Ufology to "Abandon Hope All Yee Who Enter Here" , it's critically important to accept and live by this simple and ofttimes overlooked definition. Faith: The Substance of Things Hoped For, The Evidence of Things Not Seen. From a UFO cartographer's stand point, those are not just nice words. They represent a reality that science is just starting to fully bear out. Please don't be confused. Quantum Theory is not insanity anymore than faith is mere wishful thinking. Substantiation is, as substantiation does.

    By Blogger Jeff Davis, at Sunday, July 29, 2012  

  • Thoughtful commentary, Jeff...

    I'm not denigrating "insanity."

    Bartleby (by Melville) doesn't either.

    Kafka's "Metamorphosis" neither.

    Schizophrenics have access to realities that most (almost all) don't.

    So those who see UFOs, ghosts, Nessie, Sasquatch, et al. are among the privileged -- the "insane."

    Now, psychopaths and sociopaths, who dog the UFO community -- they can be found in droves at UFO UpDates -- are the bane of ufology.

    Similar mental deficients also appear in other fields -- psychology, entertainment, news, et cetera.

    Those addressing quantum mechanics or UFOs are addressing the intrinsic insanity of those topical subjects.

    That's the fascination -- the driving interest for them (and us here, along with our regulars).

    Quantum reality is, by normal standards, and Newtonian physics, insane.

    UFOs too.

    Pursuing either will drive one mad eventually, and has done so already for a few in both areas.

    Peruse UpDates.

    The list is fraught with crazy bastards, and I'm not talking about Kathy Kasten.

    I'm talking about the plethora of nuts who pontificate there thinking they are being profound when, in fact, that are just babbling, on and on, day after day, week after week, and month after month.

    Errol Bruce-Knapp is the keeper of that asylum.

    But the real matter is what lies at the bottom of quantum or UFOs.

    It's hinted at by all the talk of theologists and The Face of God.

    A Star Trek episode dealt with this: when one sees the face of God, one will go mad.

    That reality -- God's madness -- makes us mad -- not angry, but mad.

    God is a cluster of insanity -- by human standards -- as are UFOs and quantum.

    Trying to find cogency in comments, even here, is dicey.

    We don't allow comments from the truly sociopathic -- need I name them?

    But those we admire, even they bespeak gibberish more often than not -- us included, like these comments.

    But inside some of that gibberish are hidden truths, so we let them appear.

    And inside quantum and the UFO enigma lie truths.

    But once we get to those hidden, intrinsic truths, we shall truly be mad....just like seeing the Face of God.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Sunday, July 29, 2012  

  • Rich, we all have a touch of Bi-Polar in us...look at society as a whole.

    The UFO phenom appears to reside deep within our unconscious...could insanity be God's inside joke?

    And yes, most of us that toil in the psychiatric field have noticed our own little quirks, however, one always sees his fellow co-worker as being more conflicted and seeking self psychoanalysis. I love it!

    By Blogger Tim Hebert, at Sunday, July 29, 2012  

  • Sometime, Tim, we have to share stories about our psychological associates -- a professor of mine at WSU and also a noted psychiatrist who was the doctor for the Catholic ArchDiocese of Detroit, a real loony.

    But I have to emphasize that I've experienced more sociopaths and psychotics in the UFO field than anywhere else in society.

    Some UFO nuts rival the gaggle of crazies in prisons and psychiatric wards.

    We have several who try to post here, but are eschewed of course.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Sunday, July 29, 2012  

  • Highly interesting here is an alternative method of using qunatumne entanglement, As you know using a split twisted photon it has been possible to transfere (NOT TELEPORT AS THAT IS THE DESTRUCTION OF MATTTER AT ONE END AND THE REASSEMBLY OF THE ENERGY/DATA INTO THE ORIGINAL FORM AT THE DESTINATION) a sub-atomic charged particle over 160 kilometers in the canary islands, and as you know once the two halves of the twisted photon are in real time perfect resonance with one another regardless of the distance between them, this means using quantumne resonance (twisted photons or some other transient medium with quantumne propertys similar to photons that a real time displacement of energy or matter if it can be entangled is instantaneoue between the two halve of the entangling photon and is therefore not limited by the speed of light, also the entangled object doese not have inertia passed to it, it is displaced not propelled.
    It is like using the photon as a door between two points you enter one half and exit the other with potential polarisation reversal (left may be right) being the only draw back but two entanglements fix that.

    Imagine if you like a device that could produce a twisted photon in a 1 meter tube and entangle itself in the photon, allowing itself to be displaced by one meter instantaneously.

    The tube has the emitter at the centre, the photons are sent the half meter to either end were the device is entangled and displaced including the tube and emitter leaving the now unused half.

    the real relative speed, though it is relative as the device is not moving but being displaced is 2 times the speed of light due to the fact the distance the photon has to move is half a meter in either direction and the device is displaced the whole meter.

    Now imagine a very high frequency of operation for the device it may appear as a very fast stream of very high energy light and the device could in theory move in any direction you could orient its displacement drive to,.

    right angle turns anyone

    Immediate stop and APPARENT acceleration, remember no inertia and it is'nt actualy moving

    Immediate course change, or far faster than any linear inertia displacement would allow.

    No inertia on occupants

    could use ambient gravity to callibrate relative velocity to relative bodys in motion if moving between two planets for example.

    By Blogger Unknown, at Monday, December 10, 2012  

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