UFO Conjectures

Thursday, June 20, 2019

Elon Musk on Living in a simulation



  • I wonder!...Perhaps it is the other way round... We live in a real world of realities, and the ETs/UFO are the "simulation on screen" in our atmosphere.

    A projection in other words!?...From where? or what? though...

    This idea would explain the agility of speed, they are seen to have...NOTHING can catch them, BUT! if they are a projection, as a "simulation on acreen" in our atmosohere, so to speak, could or would, a Radar return, of this phenomenon, be possible?

    I pose this question because, "sometimes" they the [UFO] are seen, but with no Radar return, establishing that something is in that airspace, but are seen none the less.

    On other occasions, there are visual AND Radar returns, that catch everyones attention, except for some people, who just can't except that reality, or choose to ignore it, saying; it's a fairy tale! They are either not up with the play, OR up to their eyebrows with the reality of it all, and no answers, so they go the other way with nothing to loose...FOR NOW!....

    A "Simulation" though!?...I'm still toiling with that idea...................

    By Blogger Daniel, at Friday, June 21, 2019  

  • I was sorely tempted to snarkily remark that Musk's comments evidence that making billions of dollars should be left to the entrepreneurs so they can give generous endowments to universities where the thinkers can think.

    That steam being let off, though I don't take this speculation seriously _at all_, by synchronicity a post on this topic flowed into my news stream, citing Nick Bostrom's locus classicus of the speculation


    which, of course, has a long, pre-cybernetic history, most famously in Descartes' thought experiment concerning an Evil Genius or midcentury's Brain-in-a-vat argument.

    Interested and serious parties can read more here https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/skepticism-content-externalism/

    By Blogger Bryan Sentes, at Friday, June 21, 2019  

  • VERY serious parties are invited to work their way through this entry; Bostrom's argument is mentioned in section 4.3...


    By Blogger Bryan Sentes, at Friday, June 21, 2019  

  • Thanks Bryan...

    I'll be putting more (again) Bostrom online this weekend, with a blip about the Cartesian thought experiment.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, June 21, 2019  

  • Daniel,

    Jacques Vallee proposes what you think, that the UFO phenomenon as such is staged by a sufficiently-advanced technology and functions as a control system for cultural belief...

    By Blogger Bryan Sentes, at Friday, June 21, 2019  

  • Hi Bryan,

    Yes!..I wondered if someone might pick up on; Jacques Vallee proposal.Your on the ball:)and it is interesting, but the problem I have with this idea though is, the story I've commented on above,goes back in UFO ancient history [Not the Radar]
    when at that time, technology was not as we know it today,so how do we explain this in ancient times?..It's an interesting proposal, but it's missing something..
    I suspect extraterrestrial technology, but as Rich thinks, nothing to do with ETs
    Fundamental principle being,space time in the huge span that makes up the cosmos.
    On the other hand,if ETs do exist, and it is claimed, they're here, they surely have overcome,space time & distance, Unless! they are nearer to Earth than first thought.
    One way or the other, they're here, or something is............

    By Blogger Daniel, at Friday, June 21, 2019  

  • Daniel,

    its precisely the consistent motifs that modern day UFO/"ETs" share with their premodern forerunners that makes Vallée propose his Control System idea, that the same "technology" is responsible for the spectacle of Faeries and Faery abductions, visions of the Blessed Virgin Mary from the Middle Ages to Fatima, etc. Said technology doesn't have to be extraterrestrial. There are profound problems with this view (taking all narratives at face value), but, there it is...

    By Blogger Bryan Sentes, at Saturday, June 22, 2019  

  • With respect to your comment on "Technology" Bryan,

    -> Said technology doesn't have to be extraterrestrial.<-

    Then who's "technology" might you suggest, if not extraterrestrial or mankind!?

    I can only envisage "electronic technology" that would produce enough energy, to effect a projection,simulating a reality,of the things you have commented on above.

    This devise would, I suspect, be a very complexed machine, requiring a considerable amount of energy to effect a projection that we're talking about..

    My question in point,is how would this be possible in ancient times, or even in prehistory, at a time when supposedly, there was no electricity to run such a devices. This is why I proposed extraterrestrial advanced technology. If it's not, then who's technology?..

    Not Gods technology, he does not need it, he IS the power, & creator of all things, that is, if one excepts that in good faith. It's OK:)..
    I'm open to all conjecture:)..........

    By Blogger Daniel, at Saturday, June 22, 2019  

  • Daniel, Vallée et al. imagine "Magonians" or ultraterrestrials, a race either native to the earth or living in a nearby, parallel dimension...

    By Blogger Bryan Sentes, at Saturday, June 22, 2019  

  • A race, native to the earth, is certainly worth considering:)..Somewhere concealed,
    from prying eyes, like underwater!?..

    Many reports of UFO or USOs, come out of the water & return. No wonder the Navy is interested in the so called Tic-Tac...but a nearby, parallel dimension...is not that easy to explain...not having been there,I view it as imaginary, but who knows?:)......

    By Blogger Daniel, at Saturday, June 22, 2019  

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