UFO Conjectures

Monday, December 09, 2019

A current hot topic in the UFO community!

https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-shaw/2019/12/02/scientist-confesses-meeting-extraterrestrials/

Both "Unknown" and Bryan Sentes brought to my attention a weird experience that quantum physicist Deep Prasad had on February 1, 2019.

"Unknown" recommended the interview with Deep on Greg Bishop's Radio Misterioso podcast/show and Bryan provided the link, above, to Hot Air's account by Deep.

The episode is fascinating: either an actual encounter with another reality or a grand mal-like hallucination.

Check our Greg's podcast -- find Radio Misterioso via Google -- or check out the written account via the link above.

RR

15 Comments:

  • ...or imaginably an experience akin to a "shamanic initiation" unrecognized as such because of the absence of that cultural frame...

    By Blogger Bryan Sentes, at Monday, December 09, 2019  

  • The shamanic initiation being a neurological quirk, brought on by hallucinogens. of course.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, December 09, 2019  

  • I merely note an initial similarity in the described experience to descriptions of the shamanic initiation, which are multifarious, to say the least, occurring, more often than not, if memory serves me right, spontaneously, as Prasad's is said to have occurred; I don't deign to attempt to explain his or any others (away).

    By Blogger Bryan Sentes, at Monday, December 09, 2019  

  • It's an abnormality, either an excursion to another reality, sort of like a Cosmic Consciousness episode, a drug or food reaction, or a neurological malfunction which he should check out with his doctor.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, December 09, 2019  

  • I'd argue it's unusual rather than abnormal: if his experience bears any resemblance to a shamanic initiation or a religious ("Cosmic Consciousness") experience, it is _very_ "normal" if not the norm, i.e., it is the kind of experience widely reported among cultures dispersed in time and space.--Again, I don't deign to judge or explain (away) his reported experience, merely, at first, take it at face value, then remark its resemblance to other reported experiences.

    If Prasad were a young man in pre-contact Turtle Island, it's not unimaginable his elders would have referred him to the local shaman, who might well have affirmed the similarity that strikes me prima facie. That is really my only claim.

    By Blogger Bryan Sentes, at Monday, December 09, 2019  

  • A Shamatic explanation, even as a pure conjecture, is a cop out, a silly adherence to nonsense.

    Shamans were (and are) con men of an esoteric kind.

    Where's the proof of anything; only anecdotal stories from the gullible.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, December 09, 2019  

  • Hey, arrogant white man, shamanism is the oldest form of religious expression on the planet, as noted, a multifarious one at that (i.e. hardly susceptible to blanket dismissal).

    I am, I repeat for the third time, _not attempting to explain anything_, merely noting a pattern, as any student of comparative religion might, for example.

    And need I remark the irony of dismissing an unquestionable dimension of human religious practice with the words "anecdotal stories from the gullible" on a UFO blog?

    Sheesh.

    By Blogger Bryan Sentes, at Monday, December 09, 2019  

  • Ironic, indeed, Bryan, buddy....

    For me, the Shaman stories, which engulf much of Joseph Campbell's oeuvre, bore the hell out of me.

    At least the "miracles' of Jesus and/or the Saints have panache.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, December 09, 2019  

  • It's not a question of taste but data.

    The shaman's travels through the worlds above and below root among other things the myth of Orpheus (a shamanic figure) and Eurydike and Book XI of the Odyssey, and, arguably, inform the theme of the descent to the underworld and echo through tales of astral travels, e.g., Swedenborg's, down to Prasad's experience.

    Shamanic religion in various guises is arguably a variety of religious experience.

    Whether Prasad's story indeed belongs to this variety is an interesting conjecture, whose grounds and implications call for investigation. Or so it seems to me.

    Nor is it the only possible conjecture concerning his story, obviously; not by a long shot.

    By Blogger Bryan Sentes, at Monday, December 09, 2019  

  • It seems to me that a Shamanic interpretation is the least interesting, not worthy of the discussion we've given it here.

    It leads us away from a truly imaginative and possibly insightful determination that Deep's experience invites.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, December 09, 2019  

  • Paging Dr. Carl Jung, paging Dr. Jung. . . .

    By Blogger Unknown, at Monday, December 09, 2019  

  • I believe the comic book writer (and practising chaos magician) Grant Morrison (one of my idols, of course) had an UFO abdution experience (which, he later said, did not involve any aliens from outer space), also Deep Prasad´s experience reminds me a bit of Terence McKennas (you guessed he was one of my faves too, right?) experiences with machine elves.

    Juat scratching my head,

    JC

    By Blogger Unknown, at Tuesday, December 10, 2019  

  • Yah, Unknown...

    It seems that such experiences are geared to the psychological and/or neurological make up of those experiencing the incident.

    I'm wondering if Jose Caravaca's "theory" applies....sort of.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, December 10, 2019  

  • He-Who´s-Not-Unkown-Anymore (sorry, couldn´t resist)

    I really think it´s a (physical) experience that triggers something psychological (or maybe even psychotic) in human beings and so the experiences can´t really be compared. And maybe Jose Caravaca's theory is very close to truth (but not the truth, of course...please keep publishing his thoughts anyway, they´re really interesting and, yeah, maybe that close to the truth they´re really interesting...)

    JC

    By Blogger Jerry Cornelius, at Friday, December 13, 2019  

  • LOL,Jerry, A mixed bag of Unkowns for everyone.........

    By Blogger Daniel, at Saturday, December 14, 2019  

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