UFO Conjectures

Friday, May 14, 2021

CBS mainstreams UFOs

CBS Sunday Morning and 60 Minutes will air UFO segments Sunday [5/16] with Leslie Kean, Avi Loeb, and others.

RR

14 Comments:

  • The two folks you mention are considered "fringe" (even with NYT and Harvard credentials), and one of them has been labeled "naive," which is a branding that'll be hard to shake. To borrow from your post about "Where are the saints?": where are the level-headed explainers with the least baggage?

    By Blogger Ron, at Friday, May 14, 2021  

  • If CBS, Ron, scouted around for a credible expert on UFOs and couldn't find any -- which is, I bet, what happened, they had to come up with a few people who almost make the qualification.

    Kean and Loeb are okay with me -- they at least are civil and can speak clearly, intelligently, maybe not about UFOs but with good grammar and an air of authority, no matter how bogus it is for us old-timers.

    It gives UFOs a patina of respectability. That's something, yes?

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, May 14, 2021  

  • I don't disagree, Rich. I do think CBS went for the two most obvious sources involved in current events. Yes, it was probably impossible to find "most credible." My question is, did they even know to look?

    By Blogger Ron, at Friday, May 14, 2021  

  • Yah, Ron, I bet no one at CBS really has ever looked at UFOs seriously; even Walter Cronkite, as erudite as he seemed [sic] on air didn't have a clue way back when he did his UFO airings in the Keyhoe era.

    I bet there'll be a humorous tinge to the shows Sunday, even after they talk about the AATIP videos.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, May 14, 2021  

  • UFOs before and after church services. It'll be a full day.

    By Blogger Ron, at Friday, May 14, 2021  

  • With good grammar and an air of authority, what more could one ask for from an individual,that has no more than you or I, on the question of;..

    What are they? Who are they, Why are they here? Where did they come from? How did they get here? Why are they crashing?

    and they may be called; "naive"..?

    It's water off a ducks back, and ignored for dignities sake..

    There will always be someone, who will view things, differently!?..

    But who knows what?...Someone does! Leslie Kean, is alright with me, and some others.
    Level-headed, and to the point!? But who really knows, what's going on in this blue world of ours, when some, don't even know what a UFO IS!!...The younger generation for
    example, need Disclosure on this subject....Who's "naive"?........?

    By Blogger Daniel, at Friday, May 14, 2021  

  • I'm with you Daniel.

    I like Loeb and Kean even with their alleged flaws.

    Kean's enthusiasm is undercutting her as Ron hints, but that's better than most of the goofiness that we usually get.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, May 14, 2021  

  • Kean's enthusiasm, maybe too keen:)........?

    By Blogger Daniel, at Friday, May 14, 2021  

  • Haha...I mean, hokey, Daniel.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, May 14, 2021  

  • Loeb: Good for him for thinking outside the box, but his hubris and outspoken disdain for mainstreamers (seen during a video teleconference with other scientists, including astronomer Jill Tarter, whom he accuses of being one of those who refuse to see things his way, and whom he later apologized to for being an ass) is the main thing that's setting him apart from his fellows right now, not his theory so much.

    Kean: I quoted a "ufologist" who called her "naive." I've read the same things about her as everyone else, and there are the usual plus and minuses. I am glad she helped to break the story because the subject was moribund. But I hesitate to award anyone in this business laurels for theories and data gathering alone. Come up with an answer, then plaudits.

    Those making the news have invited inspection, which today means they're targets. The knives are out and both these people have to defend their biases as well as their theory/reportage. I think the vitriol they attract is unfair, but we shouldn't shy away from questioning their conclusions.

    By Blogger Ron, at Friday, May 14, 2021  

  • I can't disagree, Ronald.

    There are no sacred vows in ufology.

    Everyone is open to scrutiny and opprobrium, sometimes kudos, sometimes.

    I don't follow either Kean or Loeb and haven't bought their books.

    But they are decent people and raise the level of UFO participants who usually are slovenly, in the intellectual sense and image.

    But, for serious UFOers, they suck.

    No saints and no real scholars in the UFO field as I keep noting.

    Your views take precedence with me.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, May 14, 2021  

  • The Debrief is now reporting on the "trans-medium"* vehicle video recently released by Jeremy Corbell. We are so being manipulated that it's almost funny. But it is completely sad.

    *As someone on FB correctly notes, the video doesn't show the object leaving the ocean, only entering, so it can't truly be labeled "trans-medium."

    By Blogger Ron, at Friday, May 14, 2021  

  • The reaction of “UFO Twitter” to the 60 Minutes segment on UFOs this Sunday will be far more entertaining and informative than the segment itself.

    By Blogger Unknown, at Saturday, May 15, 2021  

  • As for Kean:

    https://deadline.com/2021/05/new-line-hbo-max-ufo-film-script-leslie-kean-book-1234756820/

    Like I have said, ufology should spend far less time trying to understand the intelligence agencies, and more time trying to understand the entertainment industry. Then folks will understand what’s really going on in all of this.

    Wheels within wheels.

    By Blogger Unknown, at Saturday, May 15, 2021  

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