UFO Conjectures

Sunday, May 02, 2021

Ufology: A life career, really?

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A guy I like, recently wrote on Facebook that he became thrilled by UFOs at age 13 and from there has made the phenomenon his life-work, indicating he has been successful as a researcher of UFOs

But can one really make – or has anyone really made – UFOs a career or life-effort?

I (and you) might cite Stanton Friedman as a career ufologist but he came to the phenomenon after a stint as a nuclear physicist.

Jacques Vallee and J. Allen Hynek crossed over into ufology after careers in computer science et cetera [JV] and academia, astronomy [JAH].

John Keel was a journalist until UFOs grabbed him by the mind, warping it.

 Almost all UFO enthusiasts get into UFOs (or ufology) mid-stream, after a normal job or career, intrigued by the phenomenon, but treating it as secondary to life-activities of various kinds.

The Facebook guy probably doing the same, but lauding his UFO work as the basis of his career.

FOs are pretty much a joke, when it comes to earning a living or producing something worthwhile for society. But a few off-centered individuals tout the phenomenon as a mainstay of their creative life. Why?

Yet, recently, even Psychiatry has been condemned as a total failure, still hanging in there because we, the public, “… are willing to endure psychiatrists’ ignorance because they take on our collective responsibility for not knowing … We are all complicit!” [TLS, Andrew Scull, 5/1/21]

And about Philosophy “Wittgenstein took [it] to be an illness, a source pf suffering, something to be diagnosed and treated rather than refuted.” [TLS, Crispin Sartwell, 2/5/21]

Newton’s Classic Science is under attack by students of Quantum Mechanics and culture itself is being replaced by the non-creative and exploitative efforts of the great unwashed.

And in that context, to tout ufology or an interest in UFOs as a career is sheer madness, a total bout of senselessness.

Like a person consumed by a love for orchids -- their growing, hybriding, attention – UFO enthusiasts can admit to some kind of obsession with the phenomenon, but a career or perpetual life-style consumed by the things is, interestingly (as psychiatry would inform), sheer lunacy.

The study of and efforts put into reflection about UFOs does nothing for society or, so far, nothing for the betterment of civilization. The whole concept is ludicrous on the face of it.

But we remain consumed. And some go so far as to, embarrassingly publicize their addiction to the folly.

Now, tell me that’s not madness, insanity actually. Go ahead, make a case for UFOs as a valuable study for the enrichment of humanity.

(And I’m not being skeptical of UFOs as a bona fide phenomenon. I’m questioning the attention by some to the phenomenon.)



  • If ufologists or skeptics have stuck around long enough to be known by those descriptions, something's wrong.

    Robert Sheaffer is currently defending himself on FB for claiming Tucker Carlson isn't racist. Way to lose sight of the main subject. And Phil Mantle takes another opportunity to lose focus on more important matters by sending another zinger at Nick Pope (he's like McDonald's: over x-billion served). Beyond the fact that neither is discerning enough to see the error of their ways, it speaks volumes about their character and poorly of their actual analytical skills.

    Point is, this is a lousy way to make a living, or spend time with a hobby -- whatever the case may be. But since they both likely feel they're doing important work, and are more importantly relevant, they will continue with their "addiction" while boring the hell out of the rest of us.

    By Blogger Ron, at Sunday, May 02, 2021  

  • I'm surprised, Ron, at Sheaffer's sidestep. I thought he was smarter than that.

    And that damn Mantle, still knocking Pope, and not seeing how psychopathic that is.

    Loss of focus, about UFOs, is pandemic like the COVID virus, not as physically damaging but debilitating all the same.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Sunday, May 02, 2021  

  • Sheaffer smarter? You must be kidding; his intelligence is only skin deep. He is a son-of-Phil Klass clone who, like Klass, will push forward any explanation, regardless of the absurdity, for any and all UFO related phenomena. On a related issue: major UFO article from the New Yorker yesterday. Very much up to their usual high standards. No new information for us but a very fair and comprehensive review of most of the relevant issues for their smart-set readers out there.

    By Blogger Dominick, at Sunday, May 02, 2021  

  • Sheaffer, Dom, knows in his heart. I think, that his skepticism is all wet.

    He winks at his own skeptical views. That's his take on a UFO career.

    I haven't got the new New Yorker yet. I'm a little surprised that the mag has presented a few objective articles on UFOs recently.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Sunday, May 02, 2021  

  • Dominick:

    Agreed on Sheaffer. But how is that New Yorker piece good? Right from the start they push the execrable disinfo nonsense of STEVEN GREER for f***'s sake! Then there's this gem: "All of this, ufologists claimed, had been covered up by Majestic 12, a clandestine, para-governmental organization convened under executive order by President Truman." I could go on but those two bits alone should tell you all you need to know.

    The entire piece is meant to equate ufology with the ridiculous disinfo that has accreted around it--for the definite purpose of obscuring the substantive data. As such it could hardly be any worse than it is!

    We're seeing yet another massive disinfo setup--with a lot of help from big media. More people are catching on to this at least. See for example this recent post from Kevin Randle: https://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2021/04/coast-to-coast-am-latest-navy-videos.html


    By Blogger Martin Black, at Monday, May 03, 2021  

  • I'd like to know who these folks are in the intelligence community and Pentagon that manage this hot potato. Are they part of a bureau within an agency, albeit on the fringes to keep a low internal profile (probably set up with a non-descript or bogus name) -- or are they scattered throughout the bureaucracies but following a directive from higher up? Who is the higher up? And is this their life's work? How rewarding.

    I wonder if anyone noticed there was some confirmation to Nick Redfern's articles about the Collins Elite within the Pentagon trying to steer clear of UFOs. The latest Elizondo interview talks about one of his former bosses in DoD who wanted a hand's-off policy because of the "demonic forces" involved. Well . . . okay. There seem to be multiple motives for keeping this story buried. Is this anything but just another part of the script? Is there some kind of altruistic motivation keeping these folks in the Beltway rather than taking their talents to Hollywood? Do they worry they'll be stuck at GS-16 forever rather than getting a promotion to GS-18? How do they even update their resumes?

    There was an online article recently that touched on, among other things, Mick West and his skeptical ways. A childhood trauma coaxed him into trying to remove the fear and mystery surrounding UFO sightings and replace them with logical, commonplace explanations. All fine and good, but that's also what's blinded him to there being more people who aren't paralyzed by fear, instead are motivated into finding the truth. I feel bad if this is his life's work, especially since skepticism can't answer any of the bigger questions involved. To that end it's no better than the crazy theories it's trying to tamp down.

    By Blogger Ron, at Monday, May 03, 2021  

  • "A childhood trauma coaxed him into trying to remove the fear and mystery surrounding UFO sightings and replace them with logical, commonplace explanations."

    Imagine the situation reversed. A UFO proponent says that he seeks to enhance the mystery around UFOs because the idea excited him and gave him some alternative to the suffocating disenchantment of the "scientistic" modern worldview when he was a teenager. Of course debunkers would never shut up about it. All their ravings about ufology being a dangerous gateway to atavistic superstition would finally get some validation! But when someone uncovers these sorts of motivations among skeptics that's no problem at all. I'm sure they think of it as noble. A defining feature of self-proclaimed skeptics is a complete and impenetrable blindness to the possibility of extra-rational biases (of emotion or worldview or whatever) influencing their understanding and analysis. They're just the cool detached ratiocinators of course. What a crock.

    From time to time I also think about the mechanics of these gov disinfo jobs. One thing I wonder about is if the efforts are even continuous or different sets of unconnected agents just independently avail themselves of the same strategies--that have proven useful in God knows how many different contexts--whenever UFOs start to get too much attention (especially after someone in the gov really does let something important slip and then a bona fide "cover up" must happen).


    By Blogger Martin Black, at Monday, May 03, 2021  

  • Ron: All those guys know of the "Collins Elite." Reid, etc.

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Monday, May 03, 2021  

  • Martin: The coverup has been ongoing for so long, it almost runs itself. Of course that's hyperbole; what isn't is that those engaged in it don't ever have to do much to keep it going, and none of what they do need make sense at all. The masses won't care, and ufologists won't believe them anyway, so chaos is a perfectly acceptable result.

    Nick: There were stories a while back about the Air Force Academy being overrun with fundamentalists, so it's not a stretch to think their influence hasn't taken hold elsewhere in government and military circles. It would explain a good deal about officialdom's actions over the years. I believe an appropriate response to that would be "yikes!"

    By Blogger Ron, at Tuesday, May 04, 2021  

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