UFO Conjectures

Tuesday, September 14, 2021

Hallucinogenics and UFO events

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A review of two books – Drug Use for Grown-Ups by Dr. Carl Hart and This Is Your Mind on Plants by Michael Pollan – by Mike Jay in the September 23, 2021 New York Review of Books piqued a conversation between me and my neuroscientific son Josh this past weekend, an extension of conversations we’ve often had the past few years.

Out of conversations I’ve had with a former associate of mine, online, I’ve rebuked the use of psychelics and other mild-altering stimulants, suggesting that they interfere with the perceptive abilities of the mind (brain actually).

And I have suggested, in the past here, that no one investigates the possibility that some UFO episodes may be the result of ingested materials, some as innocuous as Tylenol or weird foods, but more likely by the ingesting of alcohol, marijuana, LSD, peyote, et al.

Such UFO incidents seem rare but the more extravagant incidents – Pascagoula? – should so be examined but haven’t been.

In the books reviewed by author Jay the plea is for an easing of penalties and opprobrium for drug use of mind-altering “medicinals.”

(My current primary care doctor told me, a few weeks ago, that he’d prefer the use of marijuana to Tramadol, an opioid, for my recurring back pain. I laughed. Weed has never touched my lips.)

Even though my son Josh insists that marijuana and psychedelics, like LSD or psilocybin (mushrooms) are being tested and re-examined across labs all over the country every day for legitimate health issues,
I still insist such psychotropics interfere with brain waves which is without question and questionable.

Most in the field of such medical research see the interference as often a boon rather than a hindrance and encourage their use for pain and serious health issues such as cancer.
I empathize but use by those outside health problems misuse such aids, as they did and do with opioids, often forcing maligned capitalistic enterprise – the dealing of such materials – to capture eventual addicted customers in recurring need and costs to acquire.

Okay, I've strayed beyond the UFO aspect, but so many UFO incidents have the patina of a psychedelic episode one can’t escape the idea that maybe a few significant episodes were products of a “trip” – inadvertent as it may have been.

Where’s Nick Redfern’s take on the matter? He likes bizarre explanations for obtuse UFO events – the Mothman sightings for instance.

And John Keel, who was under mental attack late in life; were some or all of his weird encounters and happenings the result of mind-altering “health-aids”?

Who knows? Who’s checked?

N.B . Image atop from The  New Yorker



  • Hey Rich

    Here's my take on Pascagoula.

    I know I'm right. I just can't prove it:


    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Wednesday, September 15, 2021  

  • Thanks, Nick...

    I hope visitors and regulars here paste your link into their browsers and read your observations.

    As for proof, there has to be a chink in the secrecy somewhere. Vallee nay have it or someone else does and getting hold of it would make clear what some "abductions" really were.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, September 15, 2021  

  • Re: Villas Boas. If only we could have found that hooker. For the sake of scientific inquiry, of course.

    Re: Pascagoula. How does the later (supposed) witness testimony impact the experiment theory?

    By Blogger Ron, at Wednesday, September 15, 2021  

  • The witnesses to activity on the water near the boys fishing site came about late, only showing up recently.

    But they appear to be credible, honest people.

    Mantle says there are other witnesses or evidence corroborating the event.

    The problem is that the episode is becoming encrusted with unnecessary hoopla, as I noted, Ron.

    You know how that messes up cases or reports. Everyone gets involved in something that started out simple but becomes flush with extraneous material.

    Nick's insight is interesting, however.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, September 15, 2021  

  • NR's theory makes sense to me, Rich, and I was glad to leave it at that. I wasn't looking to be pulled back into an old case unless there was resolution to it, but the new witness testimony is troubling and leaves the door open. Been there before too many times.

    Ufology is a gift that keeps on giving.

    By Blogger Ron, at Wednesday, September 15, 2021  

  • Yah, I wrote off Pascagoula long ago, citing psychological explanations but reading Parker's book along with that new witness info brought me back to it.

    I sort of saw the entities as possible robotic creations, then Calvin's insertion about a female entity upended that speculation.

    I await more from Mantle et al. But I'm worried they're milking the episode for money rather than an explanation.


    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, September 15, 2021  

  • Nick, we love you and all BUT what's this "I know I'm right but just can't prove it" nonsense. I would argue that unless we are dealing pure deduction (and we are not here) you can't KNOW
    you are right in the absence of proof. You can suggest you are right and speculate you are right but to KNOW you are right? What method of "knowing" are you into here?! We all want it!

    Also, Rich, thanks for mentioning the Carl Hart book. Professor Hart has written a sparkling account of his own personal drug journey as well as an incredibly intelligent and informative criticism of popular beliefs about drug use. Highly recommended.

    By Blogger Dominick, at Wednesday, September 15, 2021  

  • I thought, at one point, of doing a whole book on faked UFO events by govt agencies using LSD, MK-Ultra, hallucinogens, etc.

    And include cases like Betty and Barney Hill, Pascagoula, Villas Boas, Flatwoods Monster, Rendlesham etc etc.

    But, I've written articles on those LSD themes/incidents already.

    So, it would be wrong for me to rehash previous articles into a book. That would be cheating people by duplicating. But, I definitely think there's space for a full book on all this. Just not me to do it, But. I hope someone will do it. Nick.

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Wednesday, September 15, 2021  

  • Dominick: I know I'm right because every thread fits in perfectly with the history of the island, the use of hallucinogens etc. No other scenario fits perfect. The "mind-control"/MK-Ultra-type does fit. That's why I KNOW I'm right.

    By Blogger Nick Redfern, at Wednesday, September 15, 2021  

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